qmail Digest 22 Feb 2001 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 1283
Topics (messages 57676 through 57765):
Re: Need Arguments for qmail
57676 by: Mike Jackson
57677 by: Carl
57678 by: Mike Jackson
57682 by: Carl
57704 by: Russell Nelson
57725 by: Martin Akesson
57728 by: Chris Garrigues
57735 by: Dave Sill
Resend (No Reply) !!
57679 by: Mark Lo
57681 by: Henning Brauer
57688 by: Mark Lo
57690 by: Henning Brauer
57691 by: Johan Almqvist
Re: Mail delivery problems.
57680 by: Prashant Desai
Re: (OT) DJB-itization
57683 by: [gill]
57685 by: Carl
57687 by: Joost van Baal
57694 by: Martin Randall
Qmail Tests
57684 by: Sumith
Re: 1 host with several hostnames
57686 by: Claus Färber
Re: Suppressing Bounce Messages
57689 by: Claus Färber
Re: warning: trouble opening remote/4/r
57692 by: Charles Cazabon
57752 by: flint
Re: email to fax machine
57693 by: Charles Cazabon
Remote CC
57695 by: Nilo Menezes
57696 by: Johan Almqvist
Is there another procedure to enable Selective SMTP relaying whic h is not
SMTP-after-POP?
57697 by: Charrua
57701 by: Enrique Vadillo
57702 by: Charles Cazabon
57714 by: Charrua
57723 by: Kris Kelley
Re: queue keeping messages
57698 by: Karen
57700 by: Charles Cazabon
New Patch for Latest UW IMAP server
57699 by: Herbie
57703 by: Tim Hunter
57705 by: Mike Jackson
Re: djbcron
57706 by: Russell Nelson
57709 by: Chris Garrigues
Courier Problems was UW IMAP Patch
57707 by: Herbie
Re: badrcptto
57708 by: Alex Kramarov
57711 by: James R Grinter
qmail-qfilter problems
57710 by: Andy Meuse
57712 by: Alex Kramarov
57719 by: Andy Meuse
remove autoresponder and mailing list from qmailadmin
57713 by: Yee Siew Chin
57717 by: Jeremy Anttila
Remote
57715 by: Nilo Menezes
57716 by: Charles Cazabon
Re: Local Deliveries Slow
57718 by: lists-mail-isp-qmail.pgregg.com
57720 by: Manvendra Bhangui
57721 by: Charles Cazabon
57741 by: Manvendra Bhangui
LWQ & OpenBSD
57722 by: Rick Updegrove
57726 by: Kris Kelley
57743 by: Robin S. Socha
57744 by: Aaron Malone
57746 by: Gavin McCord
Re: how to hide the alias-<user_name>
57724 by: Chris Johnson
Qmail and MX Record change
57727 by: Matt Simonsen
qmail-smtpd logging
57729 by: Chris
57730 by: Charles Cazabon
57737 by: Chris Davis
57738 by: Charles Cazabon
57740 by: Chris Davis
How can I change the remote delivery program ?
57731 by: Nilo Menezes
57733 by: Chris Johnson
57734 by: Charles Cazabon
57742 by: Nilo Menezes
57745 by: Kourosh Ghassemieh
qmail-scanner wrapper
57732 by: Chris Hellberg
57736 by: Olivier M.
57739 by: Chris Hellberg
57757 by: Chris Hellberg
Slow connection on send & Server connection closed
57747 by: JK
57748 by: Chris Johnson
57749 by: Kris Kelley
57750 by: Campos Mario
57751 by: Campos Mario
57758 by: JK
57759 by: JK
57760 by: JK
57762 by: JK
our qmail is very slow!
57753 by: flint
rcpthosts file - newbe question
57754 by: Daniel Jones
57761 by: Peter Cavender
Fictitious domain and SMTP relay
57755 by: Anurag Jalan
rblsmtpd log
57756 by: Agi Subagio
Migration of Mailboxes and Accounts from Ms Exchange
57763 by: Tonka Sesarino
qmail test scripts
57764 by: Sumith
mail queue problem.
57765 by: Haig Earl
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"Robin S. Socha" wrote:
>
> * Mike Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010221 03:19]:
>
> > cat /var/log/qmail/current | tai64nlocal | less
>
> http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~reriksso/unix/award.html
This is off-topic for this list, but since you mentioned it: This is not
useless usage of cat. There has to be three processes to pipe the log
file through tai64nlocal without it flying by like an F14. If somebody
knows how to do this with only two processes, then enlighten me.
if you give:
less /var/log/qmail/current | tai64nlocal
it flies by ...
Regards,
Mike
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 01:32:17PM +0200, Mike Jackson wrote:
> "Robin S. Socha" wrote:
> >
> > * Mike Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010221 03:19]:
> >
> > > cat /var/log/qmail/current | tai64nlocal | less
> >
> > http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~reriksso/unix/award.html
>
>
> This is off-topic for this list, but since you mentioned it: This is not
> useless usage of cat. There has to be three processes to pipe the log
> file through tai64nlocal without it flying by like an F14. If somebody
> knows how to do this with only two processes, then enlighten me.
>
> if you give:
>
> less /var/log/qmail/current | tai64nlocal
>
> it flies by ...
>
> Regards,
> Mike
I don't have any logs to try it on but I imagine something like this would
work fine:
tai64nlocal </var/log/qmail/current | less
--Carl--
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Carl wrote:
>
> I don't have any logs to try it on but I imagine something like this would
> work fine:
>
> tai64nlocal </var/log/qmail/current | less
>
> --Carl--
Yep, that works. Thanks..
Mike
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 01:48:46PM +0200, Mike Jackson wrote:
> Carl wrote:
> >
>
> > I don't have any logs to try it on but I imagine something like this would
> > work fine:
> >
> > tai64nlocal </var/log/qmail/current | less
> >
> > --Carl--
>
> Yep, that works. Thanks..
>
Heh, cool. Just a guess.
--Carl--
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Robin S. Socha writes:
> * Mike Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010221 03:19]:
>
> > cat /var/log/qmail/current | tai64nlocal | less
>
> http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~reriksso/unix/award.html
It's not useless. It serves as a mental place-holder. It's where you
would put the grep if you needed to grep, instead of cat. It also
lists the single file that you're inputting. If you decided instead
that you needed to examine all the log files, instead of having to
change the whole command line, you just change "current" to "*".
Your anti-useless-use-of-cat crusade is a waste of people's time. It
comes from the old days where machine time was more important than
people time. We left those days at least five years ago.
--
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Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | --Daniel J. Bernstein
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 11:11:55AM -0500, Russell Nelson mumbled:
>
> Your anti-useless-use-of-cat crusade is a waste of people's time. It
> comes from the old days where machine time was more important than
> people time. We left those days at least five years ago.
>
So, just because we have faster computers we should make programs that
are not as efficient as they "used" to be? Your filosofy is pretty much
what Microsoft is working on and I for one do not like it. If you can
make it fast, then make is _fast_. Not because you have to but because
you can, there is no need to write less efficient code just because
a fast computer make the new, albeit slow, code run just as fast as the old
code, the fast one, on an slow machine. Thats just being dumb.
/martin
> From: Martin Akesson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:00:40 +0100
>
> So, just because we have faster computers we should make programs that
> are not as efficient as they "used" to be? Your filosofy is pretty much
> what Microsoft is working on and I for one do not like it. If you can
> make it fast, then make is _fast_. Not because you have to but because
> you can, there is no need to write less efficient code just because
> a fast computer make the new, albeit slow, code run just as fast as the old
> code, the fast one, on an slow machine. Thats just being dumb.
You can optimize for CPU time; you can optimize for programmer time; you can
optimize for user time. You can't optimize for all three at once unless the
original code was incredibly bad.
The perl camel book actually breaks this down into 6 categories as follows:
Time Efficiency
Space Efficiency
Programmer Efficiency
Maintainer Efficiency
Porter Efficiency
User Efficiency
and many of the advice in each of those sections contradicts advice in the
other sections.
Chris
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Peter Cavender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I volunteered to talk about and "defend" qmail at a Linux Users' Group
>meeting where there will be people speaking on 3 or 4 of the main MTAs.
>
>I am competent in setting up and maintaining qmail, but I must say that I
>am unable to respond properly to a lot of the criticism of qmail, mostly
>in comparison to sendmail (which I have never administered).
>
>I would appreciate any and all rebuffings of qmail myths, relevant
>anecdotes, or theoretical analysis that would aid in my presentation.
Tips:
Be honest--don't be afraid to admit qmail's weaknesses or sendmail's
strengths.
Be reasonable--don't claim that qmail is right for everyone.
Be positive--concentrate on qmail's strengths, not sendmail's
weaknesses.
Be calm--project confidence, not mindless advocacy.
qmail vs. sendmail pro's:
security
performance
reliability
modularity
VERP support
extension addresses
qmail vs. sendmail con's:
no connection caching or multiple-RCPT's
no bad address rejection during SMTP
redistribution restricted
sendmail is more widely known
qmail vs. sendmail diff's:
configuration style is very different
logging information is different
qmail myths:
qmail can flood a server that's been down for a while.
Since each message has its own retry schedule, qmail won't
immediately try to drop its backlog on a server. Other MTA's
sendmail *will*, though, through connection caching.
qmail can open too many connections to a server.
There is no way a sending system can know each remote system's
capabilities at each point in time. It has to assume that if the
remote accepts an SMTP connection request, that it can handle the
load.
-Dave
Hi,
How to tell qmail only listen to one sigle interface.
for example,
eth0="203.122.222.222"
eth0:0="203.122.222.223"
How to tell qmail to use eth0 only for incoming and outgoing connections ??
Thank You
Mark
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 07:57:43PM +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How to tell qmail only listen to one sigle interface.
>
> for example,
>
> eth0="203.122.222.222"
> eth0:0="203.122.222.223"
>
> How to tell qmail to use eth0 only for incoming and outgoing connections ??
I answered. If you are posting to the list you should be subscribed. And
resends are useless, if nobody answered the first time nobody will answer
the second time.
incoming: man tcpserver
outgoing: AFAIK impossible without patching qmail-remote.c
> Thank You
>
> Mark
>
>
>
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Hi,
I have already done so.
my script is following life with qmail, I replace 0 with my smtp server
ip address. It seems only bind qmail to use that specific IP address for
incoming connection only. But for outgoing connections, qmail uses all the
interface randomly that I have on my machine. Any cues !!!
Thank you
Mark
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 09:20:00PM +0800, Mark Lo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have already done so.
>
> my script is following life with qmail, I replace 0 with my smtp server
> ip address. It seems only bind qmail to use that specific IP address for
> incoming connection only.
Of course. As I've written.
> But for outgoing connections, qmail uses all the
> interface randomly that I have on my machine.
That depends on your routing and has nothing to do with qmail. You cannot
specifiy an ip to bound to for qmail-remote as i have written.
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* Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010221 14:47]:
> > But for outgoing connections, qmail uses all the
> > interface randomly that I have on my machine.
> That depends on your routing and has nothing to do with qmail. You cannot
> specifiy an ip to bound to for qmail-remote as i have written.
And the patches would be at
http://www.qmail.org/local-bind/
http://www.qmail.org/outgoingip.patch
http://www.lamer.de/maex/creative/software/qmail/
http://tycho.edico.si/linuxtnt/#qmail-patch
-Johan, helping Henning to mouth-feed info :-/
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just replace defaultdelivery with "/Maildir/ and dont forget trailing "/" ,
also check the owner and permission of users home directory as well as Maildir
hope this helps
Prashant Desai
Anurag Jalan wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I recently removed Sendmail 8.9.3 from my Redhat 6.2 system
> and installed Qmail 1.03 following instructions from 'Life with qmail'.
>
> Aim : To allow 20 odd users on the intranet to access their email from
> various POP3 accounts on different servers and to allow them to send
> local email to each other.
>
> Setup : caching DNS setup for a fictitious domain adventus.cxm . FQDN of
> local
> server is server.adventus.cxm .
>
> qmail-pop3d setup through tcpserver as advised .
> Russell Nelson's script used to convert /var/spool/mail to Maildir mailboxes
>
> fetchmail run via script as user 'anurag' ( was working under Sendmail ) as
> a cronjob ( every 3 minutes ) . Added 'forcecr to * here ' to .fetchmailrc .
>
> in the rc script ..in the qmail-start line i have ' defaultdelivery splogger
> qmail'
> defaultdelivery has been set to ./Maildir
>
> I have found the following error in /var/log/maillog
>
> Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1) /
>
> Any help would be *very* welcome .
>
> Sincerely
> Anurag
I should loudly proclaim that I am NOT a software developer, nor do I play
one on TV or any mailing list. The things I think are my ideas which are
subject to change. Healthy, constructive discussions which may change
them are strongly encouraged. That said, these are some of my thoughts
about this subject...
After reading DJB's both distribution policy and his ideas about
filesystem hierarchy, I think it can work with or without his blessing (of
course it would be preferred!).
I got the idea thinking of the original BSD tapes and how they were
essentially aftermarket upgrades to the AT&T UNIX distributed to them.
Maybe it would be easiest to distribute something like FreeBSD's ports ...
something that does a default install without modifying the basic
installation of DJB's tools (per the license) and then scripts the
necessary changes in the _OS_ to implement that tool, and then adds in
anything to keep that change in place (such as the makefiles mentioned
below). I think that if this was going to be done right, it would fully
implement DJB's ideas about filesystem hierarchy and all of the tools he
has created so far. This would give the world a chance to see the vision
that DJB sees, perhaps.
Is there a better list to discuss this than the qmail list?
--gill
Remember? When you said:
->On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 12:13:36AM +0100, Robin S. Socha wrote:
->> * Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
->> > Carl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
->>
->> >> Soon I'll do it, I'm hyped about the idea, it'd be cool if some
->> >> people talked more about the idea, i.e. what would they want in it.
->>
->> > Wishlist: a djb replacement for Vixie cron. Especially topical at the
->> > moment.
->>
->> But it won't happen without DJB changing his distribution policy.
->> man hier and his software don't match. This is particularly annoying if
->> you do cvsups and make world with sendmail, named etc. Oh well...
->
->Robin, I've just posted modified makefiles for your favorite OS to avoid
->this to misc@ ;-))
->
->(it's OpenBSD, for the other readers)
->
->
->
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 07:10:52AM -0500, [gill] wrote:
>
> Is there a better list to discuss this than the qmail list?
>
Perhaps misc? [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--Carl--
http://slackerbsd.org
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On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 07:38:20AM -0500, Carl wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 07:10:52AM -0500, [gill] wrote:
> >
> > Is there a better list to discuss this than the qmail list?
> >
> Perhaps misc? [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Perhaps slashpackage? http://cr.yp.to/lists.html .
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Joost
Hello Carl
On 21-Feb-01, you wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 07:10:52AM -0500, [gill] wrote:
>>
>> Is there a better list to discuss this than the qmail list?
>>
> Perhaps misc? [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --Carl--
> http://slackerbsd.org
Yes, I mentioned this to DJB as well. I think I said advocacy but a way to
get all the djb program promotion and discussion on file system layout out
of the way of this list which is basically support.
Never heard anything and as far as I am aware, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] don't exist.
A pity, as they are needed to push these, what if, discussions off this
list.
Regards...Martin
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As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error.
== Weisert
|
Hello
I've tested my qmail system with the following two
perl scripts, downloaded from www.qmail.org
perl qmail-qsanity-0_52
did not display anything does that mean..that my
Qmail Queue system is set right. or what does it really mean.
perl qmail-lint-0_55
Warning: users/assign
checking not implemented.
What does that warning mean...Is it really bad?
what can i do to make this error disppear.
Regards
Sumith
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Massimo Quintini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> I have installed QMAIL in a host called "realname.aaa.bbb.ccc"
> (MX record in DNS). On this server I have defined 10 users. This
> host should accept mails for "virtual1.aaa.bbb.ccc",
> "virtual2.aaa.bbb.ccc" and "aaa.bbb.ccc" (For example: a mail
> for [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUST go in [EMAIL PROTECTED], a
> mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUST go in
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - with "user01" user of computer
> "realname")
Just put all alias names for your real domain name in locals (and
rcpthosts).
> Must I insert the "virtual1" in DNS (MX record) ??????
Yes. Otherwise, other hosts won't know that they have to send mail
to your mail server.
Claus
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Matthew Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> Add an alias file for each of the addresses that these messages
> is intended for and redirect it to the postmaster of the
> originating domain. I'm sure it will stop real fast.
Or it will generate even more bounce messages because the other
domain is rouge...
Claus
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flint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> Today,I saw there were many messages like this in the maillog:
> >> 982653149.920320 warning: trouble opening remote/4/r
> >Your queue is corrupt. Did you manually remove any messages from the queue?
> >Get qmail-queuefix from www.qmail.org to fix this.
> Thank you. I have really removed the queue. But i have backuped them. Now
> which is better,override the queue with the backed queue or using the
> queue-fix to fix them.
You can either use queue-fix to replace/fix the (non-existent?) queue, or
restore from your backups and THEN use queue-fix to fix the queue.
You can't just restore from tape; files in the queue are named based on the
inodes they reside on. Restoring from tape will completely mess this up.
queue-fix will rename all the files to match properly.
Charles
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Dear Charles Cazabon
>
>You can either use queue-fix to replace/fix the (non-existent?) queue, or
>restore from your backups and THEN use queue-fix to fix the queue.
>
>You can't just restore from tape; files in the queue are named based on the
>inodes they reside on. Restoring from tape will completely mess this up.
>queue-fix will rename all the files to match properly.
>
>Charles
I have fix the queue using queue-fix. It unlinked some file under
/var/qmail/queue/remote,
but now I still can see the Warning messages in the maillog? Is there something wrong?
Another question(that is also why I removed the queue), I have noticed for days,now
it becomes
more and more unbearable. That is,it is very slowly when we receive mails through
POP3. The
strange thing is that when you have received the mails then receive mails again
immediately,
it is very quickly. These days this situation is very common. I'm not sure what's the
problem.
It the problem of our Mail System or the problem of the network. My mail system is:
FreeBSD+qmail+vpopmail+sqwebmail.Thank you.
flint
Ami Shamril <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We just bought one fax machine (Brothers MFC8600).
> By default users just can send fax by send email to this fax machine.
OT: what a security nightmare.
> Email address for the fax machine is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> But the format to fax is to send email to fax@mycompany(fax#1234567) (This
> format worked with MS Exchange server)
Try putting a space between the address and the parentheses:
fax@domain (fax#5551212)
If that doesn't work, perhaps try using an address like this:
"fax#5551212" <fax@domain>
Charles
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Why I get one remote process for each address in a
CC, if they are in the
same domain ?
Ex:
I get this message delivered 4 times to the same
host, x.com. Any suggestions ?
Nilo
|
* Nilo Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010221 16:06]:
> Why I get one remote process for each address in a CC, if they are in the
> same domain ?
Because that's the way qmail works.
-Johan
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Hi all,
Is there another procedure to enable Selective SMTP relaying which is not
SMTP-after-POP?. The great problem posed by this solution is that the users
do not want to perform the manual checking of the mailbox first and send
after.
Isn't there a method to enable it by domain? That is to say if the message
comes from domain "domain1.com","domain2.com" or "domain3.com" I allow it to
relay. If it comes from another domain I do not.
Thanks and Best Regards
Andrés
That would be extremely dangerous, spam from anywhere would be relayed
just by forging sender's address.
The best solution for roamers' smtp is SMTP-after-POP, trust me, what
i have done is to modify the source i found on the net (Bruce Guenter's)
and i have customized it so my smtp server is not abused by non-roaming
users of mine, and now it works simply fine.
Enrique-
|o| ---- Charrua escribió ----
|o| Hi all,
|o| Is there another procedure to enable Selective SMTP relaying which is not
|o| SMTP-after-POP?. The great problem posed by this solution is that the users
|o| do not want to perform the manual checking of the mailbox first and send
|o| after.
|o| Isn't there a method to enable it by domain? That is to say if the message
|o| comes from domain "domain1.com","domain2.com" or "domain3.com" I allow it to
|o| relay. If it comes from another domain I do not.
|o| Thanks and Best Regards
|o| Andrés
Charrua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there another procedure to enable Selective SMTP relaying which is not
> SMTP-after-POP?. The great problem posed by this solution is that the users
> do not want to perform the manual checking of the mailbox first and send
> after. Isn't there a method to enable it by domain? That is to say if the
> message comes from domain "domain1.com","domain2.com" or "domain3.com" I
> allow it to relay. If it comes from another domain I do not.
This can be done, but it isn't safe. Anyone can specify your domain as their
envelope sender address, and therefore anyone can relay through you. In fact,
some spammers use an envelope sender in the domain they're trying to relay
through just to catch people who have setups like this.
Charles
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> Enrique, which is the change you have made to the code? I suppose that
> what you do is that if the IP from which the user connects itself belongs
> to users which do not move you do not use SMTP after POP, if it is a
> different IP you use SMTP after POP. Is this so?
>
Thanks
Andres
Charrua escribió:
> > Is there another procedure to enable Selective SMTP relaying which is
not
> > SMTP-after-POP?.
Enrique Vadillo wrote:
> The best solution for roamers' smtp is SMTP-after-POP, trust me
I believe authenticated SMTP works best. The majority of email clients
support it now, and there are good implementations of it for qmail. Check
out www.qmail.org for details, specifically, Krzysztof Dabrowski's work.
---Kris Kelley
Fixed.
someone had forwarded postmaster to /dev/null
and it didn't work so hundreds of snow white virus files were being dumped
in the queue a day. They weren't expiring and were causing a vicious cycle
of send, requeue, resend.
So i redirected postmaster to an email address and all the stupid virus
files went there and i deleted them.
There is still a 3 minute delay in qmail when send a message to when you
receive it. Is this normal? I'm used to sendmail where mail is more
instantaneous.
thanks,
Karen
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Anttila [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FW: queue keeping messages
-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Cutrer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 3:56 PM
To: Jeremy Anttila
Subject: RE: queue keeping messages
This is wierd. I cannot get test messages sent from the internet to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
yet i got your message right away and in my [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailbox
Also, I seem to be able to send to the internet ok.
LINUX slackware
kernel 2.2.13 on ASA
Linux version 2.2.13 (root@s2) (gcc version 2.7.2.3)
Detected 497440483 Hz processor.
Memory: 516972k/524224k available (1252k kernel code, 416k reserved, 5540k
data, 44k init)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
Pentium-III serial number disabled.
CPU: Intel Pentium III (Katmai) stepping 02
Here is my trigger:
drwxr-x--- 2 qmailq qmail 1024 Dec 16 1999 .
drwxr-x--- 11 qmailq qmail 1024 Dec 16 1999 ..
-rw------- 1 qmails qmail 0 Jan 12 2000 sendmutex
-rw-r--r-- 1 qmailr qmail 1024 Feb 20 15:15 tcpto
prw--w--w- 1 qmails qmail 0 Feb 20 15:16 trigger
mail queue is filling up to enormous amounts of
filez too. and they are preprocessed.
(centex):[/root]#>qmail-qstat
messages in queue: 18045
messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0
(centex):[/root]#>
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Jeremy Anttila wrote:
> what is your os and setup that you are using ?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 2:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: queue keeping messages
>
>
>
> For a couple of weeks now qmail has been keeping messages in the queue
about
> one to one and a half hours after the message is sent. So everyone is
> complaining that they don't receive their mail right away.
>
> Didn't have any probs before this (except for people incompletely stop and
> restart qmail wrong then it wouldn't send messages)
> Any suggestions?
>
> qmail version 1.03
>
>
> Thanks,
> Karen Cutrer
> Central Texas Communications
>
>
>
Karen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Fixed.
> someone had forwarded postmaster to /dev/null
Nasty. If you did want to do this (not that it's a good idea), the proper
way is `echo "#" >~alias/.qmail-postmaster`.
> There is still a 3 minute delay in qmail when send a message to when you
> receive it. Is this normal? I'm used to sendmail where mail is more
> instantaneous.
Depends on how you're storing and retrieving mail. If NFS and POP3 are
involved , check to make sure that the clocks of all the machines involved are
in sync. qmail-pop3d apparently doesn't like to list mail from the future
in its responses to the LIST command.
Charles
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Hi,
I have modified all the patches David Harris had to create an
uber-patch for the latest UW IMAP server.
This means you can have a secure IMAP and POP server that does only
Maildirs, without some of the problems I have been experiencing using
Courier with clients like Eudora.
link is http://www.greboguru.org/qmail/
Cheers
Herbie
What problems do you have using Courier with Eudora? I use it daily with
zero problems.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Qmail Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:41 AM
Subject: New Patch for Latest UW IMAP server
> Hi,
> I have modified all the patches David Harris had to create an
> uber-patch for the latest UW IMAP server.
>
> This means you can have a secure IMAP and POP server that does only
> Maildirs, without some of the problems I have been experiencing using
> Courier with clients like Eudora.
>
> link is http://www.greboguru.org/qmail/
>
> Cheers
>
> Herbie
>
>
Tim Hunter wrote:
>
> What problems do you have using Courier with Eudora? I use it daily with
> zero problems.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Qmail Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:41 AM
> Subject: New Patch for Latest UW IMAP server
>
> > Hi,
> > I have modified all the patches David Harris had to create an
> > uber-patch for the latest UW IMAP server.
> >
> > This means you can have a secure IMAP and POP server that does only
> > Maildirs, without some of the problems I have been experiencing using
> > Courier with clients like Eudora.
> >
> > link is http://www.greboguru.org/qmail/
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Herbie
I have several users that have problems using Eudora with Courier. The
problems seem to surface when they have client side filters and more
than ~300 new messages in their inbox. It takes very long to filter, I
don't know why. Still, I would prefer to stay with Courier because UW is
a memory/resource HAWG if you have many IMAP connections.
Mike
Michael Handler writes:
> What's really needed in this instance is a program that, given an
> execution schedule on the command line, figures out how long until the
> next scheduled execution, and sleeps that long (sleepuntil).
>
> Potential problem: clock shift (NTP resync, DST transitions) could confuse
> it. Maybe it has to wake up (SIGALRM) periodically and recheck the time
> until execution. Could get ugly.
No, you need a program which scans a directory looking for files with
a timestamp NOT in the future. Whenever it encounters any of these,
it hands the file to the shell. Presumably the last line in the file
either removes the file or runs a touch command to reschedule.
I'd go ahead and write this problem, but I'm not sure how portable are
future timestamps. I know that tar complains about future timestamps,
but it sets them anyway. Anything else?
> Actual problem: The sleepuntil utility needs to run *first* in the ./run
> script, otherwise when your machine starts, every scheduled program would
> run once instantly, which is almost certainly not what you want. Oops.
>
> Running cron-style services out of supervise has the additional advantage
> of being able to stop the execution of the job via the standard daemontools
> utilities, and having much firmer control over the environment that the
> jobs run in, unlike modern cron.
Yup.
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> From: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:27:24 -0500 (EST)
>
> Michael Handler writes:
> > What's really needed in this instance is a program that, given an
> > execution schedule on the command line, figures out how long until the
> > next scheduled execution, and sleeps that long (sleepuntil).
> >
> > Potential problem: clock shift (NTP resync, DST transitions) could confu
> se
> > it. Maybe it has to wake up (SIGALRM) periodically and recheck the time
> > until execution. Could get ugly.
>
> No, you need a program which scans a directory looking for files with
> a timestamp NOT in the future. Whenever it encounters any of these,
> it hands the file to the shell. Presumably the last line in the file
> either removes the file or runs a touch command to reschedule.
>
> I'd go ahead and write this problem, but I'm not sure how portable are
> future timestamps. I know that tar complains about future timestamps,
> but it sets them anyway. Anything else?
If someone wants to write a cron replacement, they should spend some time
looking at functionality provided by other non-unix based systems.
A few years ago i had a gig teaching use of Tivoli Maestro, which is best
described to Unixheads as "cron on steroids". It's a port of a mainframe
scheduling tool that does some real cool things with dependencies. In my
opinion, it has two main problems: 1) it doesn't "feel" like a unix tool, and
2) it's horrendously expensive.
The neatest feature it has, however, is a very sophisticated dependency
relationship, so you can say things like:
Run job A on work days
Run job B on holidays and weekends
Run job C after either job A or job B has completed. (but don't run job C if
A or B did not run).
These dependencies are also cross system, so you can have a job that
doesn't run on system X until another job has finished running on system Y.
I started hacking together a proof of concept (in perl, so we know the
performance would have sucked if I'd ever finished) using the future
timestamp scheme that Russell describes a while back.
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Like Mike said, if you have a lot of client side filters Eudora will
thrash you Courier IMAP server bad.
If you want to see why switch on debugging in Courier IMAP, it seems that
Eudora pulls all messages that match the filter, and it goes through each
filter in turn, it also does some wierd UID requesting. Courier hates it
the system load goes astronomical at these points.
Mike, try the UW IMAP watch these problems dissappear, though I could not
tell you why.
Herbie
PS I am not subscribed to this list anymore I just check the web digest a
couple of times a day, so I am not able to respond to any message
personally, as your e-mail address does not appear in the digest.
James R Grinter wrote
> > The list is based on .qmail with all recipients names. I was thinking to
> > block people from sending to his list, read a little ezmlm-idx, but
couldn't
> > find a satisfactory solution with it.
>
> in .qmail-whatever:
> |(validate-mail || exit 100)
> #real list of stuff from hereon
>
> Where validate-mail is a program that checks some appropriate criteria
> (sender, contents of headers, etc) and exits with an appropriate exit
> code (in the above example exitting with 0 would mean that the message
> was ok to go)
Well, I thought of it myself, but this protects from random people sending
e-mail to the address I want to protect, but will not help if someone
deliberatelly targets this address - forgind the sender or headers is a
piece of cake, where filtering by RELAYCLIENT will assure that the person
sending the e-mail has a valid account at my server, and I can get him for
anything "un_smart" he might do, and as i understand you do not have
RELAYCLIENT in the final delivery stage, so validate-mail cannot help .
Anyway, I have already wrote the patch and using it, and I see it's use for
others too, for example that thread about sending e-mail to a fax, which was
proclamed as a "security nightmare" on the list an hour ago.
Alex Kramarov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The list is based on .qmail with all recipients names. I was thinking to
> block people from sending to his list, read a little ezmlm-idx, but couldn't
> find a satisfactory solution with it.
in .qmail-whatever:
|(validate-mail || exit 100)
#real list of stuff from hereon
Where validate-mail is a program that checks some appropriate criteria
(sender, contents of headers, etc) and exits with an appropriate exit
code (in the above example exitting with 0 would mean that the message
was ok to go)
Russell Nelson has given some very good examples of validation in the
past - check the list archives.
James.
Hey All,
I've installed the qmail-qfilter and cannot get it to work. After I add the
"QMAILQUEUE" lines to my tcp.smtp and rebuild it, I send an email and get an
email back immediately saying, "No transport provider was available for
delivery to this recipient" message. There is nothing in the logs on the
mail server.
The TMPDIR I set in the Makefile is /var/qmail/bin/tmp. I've tried
changing the ownership of the files below, and the TMPDIR to qmailq, but
that didn't work either.
\var\qmail\bin
-rwxr-xr-x 1 qmaild qmail 1753 Feb 20 15:34 deny-filetypes
-rwxr-xr-x 1 qmaild qmail 74 Feb 20 16:56 qmail-qftest
drwxrwxr-x 2 qmaild qmail 4096 Feb 21 09:56 tmp
-rwxrwxr-x 1 qmaild qmail 37931 Feb 21 09:58 qmail-qfilter
----tcp.smtp--------
172.16.3.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-qftest"
127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-qftest"
--------------------
----qmail-qftest----
#!/bin/sh
exec /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qfilter /var/qmail/bin/deny-filetypes
--------------------
The deny-filetypes file is straight from ~/samples in the qmail-qfilter
package
----Processes------
root 9021 1 0 08:57 pts/1 00:00:00
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -H -R 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popu
root 9022 1 0 08:57 pts/1 00:00:00 /var/qmail/bin/splogger
pop3d
root 9024 1 0 08:57 pts/1 00:00:00 svscan
root 9025 9024 0 08:57 pts/1 00:00:00 supervise qmail-send
root 9026 9024 0 08:57 pts/1 00:00:00 supervise log
root 9027 9024 0 08:57 pts/1 00:00:00 supervise qmail-smtpd
root 9028 9024 0 08:57 pts/1 00:00:00 supervise log
qmails 9029 9025 0 08:57 pts/1 00:00:00 qmail-send
qmaill 9030 9026 0 08:57 pts/1 00:00:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t
/var/log/qmail
qmaill 9031 9028 0 08:57 pts/1 00:00:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t
/var/log/qmail/smtpd
qmaild 9032 9027 0 08:57 pts/1 00:00:00
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c 20 -u 507
root 9037 9029 0 08:57 pts/1 00:00:00 qmail-lspawn ./Maildir/
qmailr 9038 9029 0 08:57 pts/1 00:00:00 qmail-rspawn
qmailq 9039 9029 0 08:57 pts/1 00:00:00 qmail-clean
Any suggestions?
-Andy
ALSO:
In the qmail-qfilter readme it says...
"Check the definitions at the top of qmail-qfilter.c, especially the value
of TMPDIR. This should be set to a temporary directory that only the
executor of qmail-qfilter has write access to."
I can't find any TMPDIR reference in the qmail-qfilter.c file though, only
in the Makefile.
Andy Meuse wrote
> I've installed the qmail-qfilter and cannot get it to work. After I add
the
> "QMAILQUEUE" lines to my tcp.smtp and rebuild it, I send an email and get
an
> email back immediately saying, "No transport provider was available for
> delivery to this recipient" message.
1. I suspect this error message comes from outlook - don't use it to
troubleshoot smtp e-mail, you will never get a decent error message.
2. try sending a message manually (telnet host 25), or through (at least)
outlook express and see what error do you recieve.
Thanks for the advice, here is the error Outlook Express gives me...
An unknown error has occurred. Subject '', Account: 'porno.server.com',
Server: 'porno.server.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '451 qq
temporary problem (#4.3.0)', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 451,
Error Number: 0x800CCC6A
...and from looking through the archives I found that I might need to set my
softlimit value higher. I did so and that worked. Hoorah! Say goodbye to
.VBS attachments on my network.
Thanks again,
Andy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Kramarov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:02 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Qmail List (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: qmail-qfilter problems
>
>
> Andy Meuse wrote
>
> > I've installed the qmail-qfilter and cannot get it to work.
> After I add
> the
> > "QMAILQUEUE" lines to my tcp.smtp and rebuild it, I send an
> email and get
> an
> > email back immediately saying, "No transport provider was
> available for
> > delivery to this recipient" message.
>
> 1. I suspect this error message comes from outlook - don't use it to
> troubleshoot smtp e-mail, you will never get a decent error message.
>
> 2. try sending a message manually (telnet host 25), or
> through (at least)
> outlook express and see what error do you recieve.
>
>
>
how can i remove the autoresponder and mailing list
from the qmailadmin? i am using the latest version of
qmailadmin?
and, how can i login using username instead of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in sqwebmail?
rgds,
yee
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your stuck like chuck there unless you do not want to support virtual hosts.
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From: Yee Siew Chin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: remove autoresponder and mailing list from qmailadmin
how can i remove the autoresponder and mailing list
from the qmailadmin? i am using the latest version of
qmailadmin?
and, how can i login using username instead of
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How I can configure sendmail to deliver remote
messages ?
The way remote is doing is impossible to
me.
The same message to a single host, but with carbon
copies is
sent many times.
In a 64K a 3MB message to 10 people is sent like a
30MB
message.
Nilo Menezes
|
Nilo Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How I can configure sendmail to deliver remote messages ?
>
> The way remote is doing is impossible to me. The same message to a single
> host, but with carbon copies is sent many times. In a 64K a 3MB message to
> 10 people is sent like a 30MB message.
qmail is designed not to do this. If you want multi-RCPT delivery, you'll
have to heavily patch qmail, or switch to another MTA (postfix, exim,
sendmail, etc).
Charles
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In article <001001c09bc6$2f6434a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> Hi,
> I am having a tough time migrating to qmail. I have applied the concurrency
> patch and set the concurrency limit to 250. Inspite of that I do not see the
> qmail-lspawn forking more than 2 or 3 processes at any given point of time.
> What could be the problem? My local queue is currently at 80000.
> Due to this my users are unable to get mails. However they are able to send out
> mails fine.
>
> However remote deliveries seem to be going fine and I can see multiple
> qmail-remote being forked.
Hmmmm, I've only come across this once before and it turned out that
the /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger pipe was "broken". It happened when
I tried a cheapo (tar cvf qmail.tar qmail; copy qmail.tar file to diff
server and untarred) install of qmail ;-)
Qmail would work but would only process local deliveries every 30 minutes.
I resolved it by doing a proper "make setup check" install (though
remember to backup your control/* files - it will trash some of them).
Btw, concurrencylocal max is 120
Paul.
I have already run the make check, etc and checked the permissions as per
the LWQ. I have been observing this problem on my system for more than few
days.
Following are the observations.
1. When the incoming rate increases, qmail-send is unable to cope up.
The todo increases at an alarming rate. After this the number of local
deliveries
suddenly stop (around 1 per sec).
2. After shutting down port 25 (to stop incoming mails) and giving some
time for the unprocessed mails to become zero, the local mail
delivery again become fast (I could get a concurrency of about 160)
This is the current stats I have on my mailserver.
isocor:/var/qmail/bin>./qmail-qstat
messages in queue: 67966
messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 42007
and this is the output of qmHandle -s
isocor:/var/qmailanalog/bin>qmHandle -s
Messages in local queue: 27999
Messages in remote queue: 1418
Has anyone observed this and have come up with any solution to this.
Regards Manny
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: Local Deliveries Slow
> In article <001001c09bc6$2f6434a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am having a tough time migrating to qmail. I have applied the
concurrency
> > patch and set the concurrency limit to 250. Inspite of that I do not see
the
> > qmail-lspawn forking more than 2 or 3 processes at any given point of
time.
> > What could be the problem? My local queue is currently at 80000.
> > Due to this my users are unable to get mails. However they are able to
send out
> > mails fine.
> >
> > However remote deliveries seem to be going fine and I can see multiple
> > qmail-remote being forked.
>
> Hmmmm, I've only come across this once before and it turned out that
> the /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger pipe was "broken". It happened when
> I tried a cheapo (tar cvf qmail.tar qmail; copy qmail.tar file to diff
> server and untarred) install of qmail ;-)
>
> Qmail would work but would only process local deliveries every 30 minutes.
>
> I resolved it by doing a proper "make setup check" install (though
> remember to backup your control/* files - it will trash some of them).
>
> Btw, concurrencylocal max is 120
>
> Paul.
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Manvendra Bhangui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have already run the make check, etc and checked the permissions as per
> the LWQ.
Excellent. Looks like you've done (most of) your homework.
> 1. When the incoming rate increases, qmail-send is unable to cope up.
> The todo increases at an alarming rate. After this the number of local
> deliveries
> suddenly stop (around 1 per sec).
> 2. After shutting down port 25 (to stop incoming mails) and giving some
> time for the unprocessed mails to become zero, the local mail
> delivery again become fast (I could get a concurrency of about 160)
> This is the current stats I have on my mailserver.
>
> isocor:/var/qmail/bin>./qmail-qstat
> messages in queue: 67966
> messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 42007
[...]
> Has anyone observed this and have come up with any solution to this.
Yes. Russ Nelson noticed this, and created the big-todo patch. It helps,
but does not eliminate the problem in all cases. Basically the problem is
that qmail send will only process local and remote deliveries when there
is nothing left in todo.
Try applying the big-todo patch; it should help significantly.
Charles
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I hate to post unecessarily. But this is to thank everyone especially
Charles Cazabon and Dave Sill. The Big To Do patch worked and my
mails are zipping through (I run a very high volume mail server). I have
successfully migrated my users from Isocor (critical path's messaging soln)
to
qmail.
This is the second instance where my life got saved because of this great
list.
Regards Manny
----- Original Message -----
From: Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: Local Deliveries Slow
> Manvendra Bhangui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have already run the make check, etc and checked the permissions as
per
> > the LWQ.
>
> Excellent. Looks like you've done (most of) your homework.
>
> > 1. When the incoming rate increases, qmail-send is unable to cope up.
> > The todo increases at an alarming rate. After this the number of
local
> > deliveries
> > suddenly stop (around 1 per sec).
> > 2. After shutting down port 25 (to stop incoming mails) and giving some
> > time for the unprocessed mails to become zero, the local mail
> > delivery again become fast (I could get a concurrency of about 160)
>
> > This is the current stats I have on my mailserver.
> >
> > isocor:/var/qmail/bin>./qmail-qstat
> > messages in queue: 67966
> > messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 42007
> [...]
> > Has anyone observed this and have come up with any solution to this.
>
> Yes. Russ Nelson noticed this, and created the big-todo patch. It helps,
> but does not eliminate the problem in all cases. Basically the problem is
> that qmail send will only process local and remote deliveries when there
> is nothing left in todo.
>
> Try applying the big-todo patch; it should help significantly.
>
> Charles
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Hello,
I have been running qmail on Linux (RedHat and Mandrake) for a few months
now and I am growing interested in switching to OpenBSD for many obvious
reasons.
I did try a "ports" install of qmail and watched what was happening, and
saved the ports version of what was needed for the user ids since OpenBSD is
not mentioned at all in INSTALL.ids (I also asked on this list and got
helpful advice - thanks guys)
Ok on to my lamer newbie question:
Since I do not have a init.d directory in OpenBSD and it seems everything is
started from rc.conf and rc.local in OpenBSD how am I to follow LWQ?
Has anyone recently switched to OpenBSD that was used to LWQ + Linux before
and if so, do you have any helpful hints, reading material or advice at all?
Thanks in advance.
Rick Up
Rick Updegrove wrote:
> Since I do not have a init.d directory in OpenBSD and it seems everything
is
> started from rc.conf and rc.local in OpenBSD how am I to follow LWQ?
I may be way off base here, having never used OpenBSD, but couldn't you
create the LWQ qmail start-up script as a file somewhere, then tell
whichever rc.* script is appropriate to do a "/path/to/script/qmail start"?
---Kris Kelley
* Kris Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Rick Updegrove wrote:
>> Since I do not have a init.d directory in OpenBSD and it seems
>> everything is started from rc.conf and rc.local in OpenBSD how am I
>> to follow LWQ?
> I may be way off base here, having never used OpenBSD, but couldn't
> you create the LWQ qmail start-up script as a file somewhere, then
> tell whichever rc.* script is appropriate to do a
> "/path/to/script/qmail start"?
That (man 8 rc) would do the trick. The wrong one, IMHO, though, because
daemontools and ucspi-tcp are also in the ports if necessary - a much
better solution, but YMMV. SysV init scripts don't really belong into
BSD land ;-)
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On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 11:46:26AM -0800, Rick Updegrove wrote:
> Since I do not have a init.d directory in OpenBSD and it seems everything is
> started from rc.conf and rc.local in OpenBSD how am I to follow LWQ?
I recently set up an openbsd 2.8 box LWQ-style. The 'qmail' script that
is suggested to be placed in an init.d directory, I put in
/usr/local/sbin. Then I added the line:
/usr/local/sbin/qmail start
to /etc/rc.local.
> Has anyone recently switched to OpenBSD that was used to LWQ + Linux before
> and if so, do you have any helpful hints, reading material or advice at all?
Nothing really, at least as far as qmail is concerned. It's running
just as well as it has on my linux boxes.
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System Administrator American criminal class...
Poplar Bluff Internet, Inc. except Congress."
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On 21.02.2001 20:04 +0000 Kris Kelley wrote:
> Rick Updegrove wrote:
> > Since I do not have a init.d directory in OpenBSD and it seems
> everything
> is
> > started from rc.conf and rc.local in OpenBSD how am I to follow LWQ?
>
> I may be way off base here, having never used OpenBSD, but couldn't you
> create the LWQ qmail start-up script as a file somewhere, then tell
> whichever rc.* script is appropriate to do a "/path/to/script/qmail
> start"?
>
> ---Kris Kelley
>
Using Slackware, I decided to simplify things and just put
the qmail start|stop|reload in /usr/local/sbin and then call
it from /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
Now, though I've set it up to be controlled by svscan/supervise,
so I don't need to bother with the rc.d scripts at all.
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On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 09:56:22AM +0800, keng heng wrote:
> hi, I'm using djb fast-forward to do the virtual domain emailling system, but
> I noticed that in he mail header, I'll get the
>
> Delivered-To: alias-<user_name>@virtual1.com, then finally Delivered-To:
> <user_name>@real_host_domain.com
>
> is it anyway to hide the Delivered-To: alias-<user_name>@virtual1.com ?
No, and you shouldn't do that anyway. The Delivered-To headers prevent nasty
mail loops.
Chris
Sorry this is long, I felt it was important for me to give all these
details.
We currently have our main mx record for careercast.com pointing to
mail.careercast.com (216.39.101.230). This is our old sendmail server
which is basically a redirect box which forwards messages to ISP
accounts for each user based on the aliases file.
I am now bringing email in house and have a Qmail server named
email.careercast.com (216.39.101.233). For our beta testers I changed
the forwarding address on mail.careercast.com from the ISP to point to
their new account on email.careercast.com. It has worked perfectly. This
server is running Qmail 1.03 with Vpopmail, the main domain is
careercast.com, with a virtual domain for ftp.careercast.com and
email.careercast.com so it will accept mail for those addresses, too. In
preperation for maving our MX records over I have converted the aliases
file from our main email server into .qmail files and placed those in
the appropriate location on the new server. It is forwarding mail
perfectly to the ISP for users who do not yet have real accounts when
email is sent directly to email.careercast.com.
Here's the question:
I intend to have the MX record for careercast.com changed from
mail.careercast.com to email.careercast.com. It seems pretty simple...I
don't think users will notice anything different since this server is
just a redirect box and either server will be able to forward email to
the ISP. Thus, propigation seems like a non-issue. Is there anything
else I should be thinking about in making this change? Is there anything
to test how this transition will happen? I have tried sending mail to
and from it, along with testing the .qmail-files and everything seems
good. I have only been a sys admin for this company one month and this
is a large project that I want to be sure goes smoothly.
Thanks for you time
Matt Simonsen
Hi, I'm fairly new to q-mail so go easy on me. I've looked through all sorts
of documentation and I haven't been able to find a way to do this yet. I
can't get qmail to log the address of a remote mail server thats sends it
mail to be delivered locally. example, spot.netnitco.net is running qmail.
the user joe gets his mail at spot.netnitco.net. someone else (using
mail.netnitco.net as his smtp server) sends a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], qmail logs this happening of course and the mail is
delivered to joe fine. But qmail does not log that the connection came from
mail.netnitco.net, I would like it to do this for several reasons. I'm not
sure exactly what information you'll all need from me to help me out, I'm
using multilog + vpopmail + daemontools if that helps.
Thanks in advance,
--Chris
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, I'm fairly new to q-mail so go easy on me. I've looked through all sorts
> of documentation and I haven't been able to find a way to do this yet. I
> can't get qmail to log the address of a remote mail server thats sends it
> mail to be delivered locally. example, spot.netnitco.net is running qmail.
> the user joe gets his mail at spot.netnitco.net. someone else (using
> mail.netnitco.net as his smtp server) sends a message to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], qmail logs this happening of course and the mail is
> delivered to joe fine. But qmail does not log that the connection came from
> mail.netnitco.net, I would like it to do this for several reasons. I'm not
> sure exactly what information you'll all need from me to help me out, I'm
> using multilog + vpopmail + daemontools if that helps.
qmail-smtpd doesn't log it, but qmail records it in a Received: header, like
any other MTA does. Is this not sufficient? You could create a wrapper
around qmail-smtpd which logs this information to stdout if you like.
Charles
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> qmail-smtpd doesn't log it, but qmail records it in a Received: header,
like
> any other MTA does. Is this not sufficient? You could create a wrapper
> around qmail-smtpd which logs this information to stdout if you like.
Actually sendmail does record this as "relay=host.domain [1.2.3.4]" in it's
log file. (again I am simply referring to the last relay hit before the
message is delivered, not the originating mail server.)
So I assume qmail has no built-in way to record this? I'd rather not have to
write a wrapper
to get this information from each message header, unless of course that is
the only option. Any helpful info on how to go about writing such a program?
Thanks,
--Chris
> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi, I'm fairly new to q-mail so go easy on me. I've looked through all
sorts
> > of documentation and I haven't been able to find a way to do this yet. I
> > can't get qmail to log the address of a remote mail server thats sends
it
> > mail to be delivered locally. example, spot.netnitco.net is running
qmail.
> > the user joe gets his mail at spot.netnitco.net. someone else (using
> > mail.netnitco.net as his smtp server) sends a message to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], qmail logs this happening of course and the mail
is
> > delivered to joe fine. But qmail does not log that the connection came
from
> > mail.netnitco.net, I would like it to do this for several reasons. I'm
not
> > sure exactly what information you'll all need from me to help me out,
I'm
> > using multilog + vpopmail + daemontools if that helps.
>
Chris Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Actually sendmail does record this as "relay=host.domain [1.2.3.4]" in it's
> log file.
I'm not familiar with sendmail. Does it record this log line only for messages
with a non-local envelope recipient? That would make it tricky to emulate
with a wrapper around qmail-smtpd.
Charles
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> > Actually sendmail does record this as "relay=host.domain [1.2.3.4]" in
it's
> > log file.
>
> I'm not familiar with sendmail. Does it record this log line only for
messages
> with a non-local envelope recipient? That would make it tricky to emulate
> with a wrapper around qmail-smtpd.
As far as I know this is put on every type of transfer,
remote-to-remote,remote-to-local, and local-to-remote. I only really need to
have it logged for remote-to-local x-fers, for say finding out the address
of an open spam relay that keeps sending me junk, that is my end-goal.
Perhaps I'm going about this the wrong way, but in the past with sendmail I
have always been able to get this information from my logs.
Thanks,
--Chris
|
I want multiple-RCPTs.
I want to configure sendmail to make
remote deliveries. How can I do that ?
Nilo Menezes
|
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 05:22:06PM -0400, Nilo Menezes wrote:
> I want multiple-RCPTs.
> I want to configure sendmail to make
> remote deliveries. How can I do that ?
This is a qmail list, not a sendmail list. If you want help configuring
sendmail, you're in the wrong place.
Chris
Nilo Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want multiple-RCPTs. I want to configure sendmail to make remote
> deliveries. How can I do that ?
The way I read this question is you are running qmail, but are unhappy about
qmail-remote's single-RCPT delivery methods. You therefore want to
continue to run qmail, but use sendmail for remote deliveries instead of
qmail-remote.
While this would be possible, I can't see that it would actually be useful.
One possible approach would be to do a serialmail-like trick for all remote
mail which then injected into a sendmail queue.
Charles
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Yes. I asked, but in different ways, in different situations in my problem
solving path. I don't remember any reply from you...
The fact is that I don't have bandwidth to support 30MB transfers.
It's huge. All I want is to use qmail to receive local and internet
messages,
but deliver only local ones and pass remote messages to other agents,
that one supporting multiple-RCPTs. It's what I want.
The question should be: How can I configure qmail to deliver remote message
through sendmail(MTA) ? Sorry, but read the subject line and the message
body together...
I don't want to hack qmail-remote or change the qmail style of delivering
remote messages
and eatting my bandwidth. But I'm too much attached to qmail to simply make
a change. I will ask the same quastion in the list how many times I want,
and until I got someone to aswer my question. I do this and I got different
answers that helped me to figure what I did wrong. Thanks to all in the
list.
If you can't help don't say I can't ask.
Due to "my multiple post of the same question in list" I figure out how to
do what I want. I will use serialmail package add-on to pass all remote
messages to sendmail,
like sendmail were in another host, or ISP.
Thank you for nothing.
Nilo Menezes
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Nilo Menezes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: How can I change the remote delivery program ?
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 05:22:06PM -0400, Nilo Menezes wrote:
> > I want multiple-RCPTs.
> > I want to configure sendmail to make
> > remote deliveries. How can I do that ?
> >
> > Nilo Menezes
>
> You asked this question, phrased another way, already, and got an
> answer. I'm sorry if you didn't like the answer, but it is factual.
> qmail _does not_ do multi-rcpt deliveries -- period. If you _need_
> mutli-rcpt delivery, you need to patch the sources for qmail (quite
> heavily from what I understand), or you need to use another MTA. AFAIK,
> noone has or intends to write such a patch.
>
> As for 'sendmail', do you mean the sendmail wrapper for qmail-inject
> that comes with qmail, or do you mean actual Allman sendmail? If you
> mean the wrapper, you cannot. The sendmail wrapper does not do delivery.
> qmail-inject does not do delivery. qmail-remote does delivery -- that's
> it. If you mean Allman's sendmail product, that has nothing to do with
> qmail.
>
> Please do not ask the same questions over again on any mailing list,
> especially a busy one. It's very rude, and those who saw that someone
> answered you will ignore all further messages from you....
>
> --
> Greg White
> Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
> revolution inevitable.
> -- John F. Kennedy
>
Hi.
I'm not sure if this helps but if you have another qmail server on the other
end of the link you could set up an alias on the other server that is simply
a distribution list. That way only one copy of the mail goes across the link
and the qmail server on the other side can then deliver multiple copies of
the mail locally. Just be sure to check the alias with a small mail so you
don't
accidentally get back multiple bounces =)
At 06:29 PM 2/21/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Yes. I asked, but in different ways, in different situations in my problem
>solving path. I don't remember any reply from you...
>
>The fact is that I don't have bandwidth to support 30MB transfers.
>It's huge. All I want is to use qmail to receive local and internet
>messages,
>but deliver only local ones and pass remote messages to other agents,
>that one supporting multiple-RCPTs. It's what I want.
>The question should be: How can I configure qmail to deliver remote message
>through sendmail(MTA) ? Sorry, but read the subject line and the message
>body together...
>
>I don't want to hack qmail-remote or change the qmail style of delivering
>remote messages
>and eatting my bandwidth. But I'm too much attached to qmail to simply make
>a change. I will ask the same quastion in the list how many times I want,
>and until I got someone to aswer my question. I do this and I got different
>answers that helped me to figure what I did wrong. Thanks to all in the
>list.
>If you can't help don't say I can't ask.
>
>Due to "my multiple post of the same question in list" I figure out how to
>do what I want. I will use serialmail package add-on to pass all remote
>messages to sendmail,
>like sendmail were in another host, or ISP.
>
>Thank you for nothing.
>
>Nilo Menezes
>
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I've tried getting qmail-scanner to work and don't seem to have much
luck as the suidperl binary won't allow the perl qmail scanner script to
run under suid root. Anyone written a suitable wrapper that the
qmail-scanner docos describe that I could pilfer?
Cheers
Chris
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 10:19:28AM +1300, Chris Hellberg wrote:
> I've tried getting qmail-scanner to work and don't seem to have much
> luck as the suidperl binary won't allow the perl qmail scanner script to
> run under suid root. Anyone written a suitable wrapper that the
> qmail-scanner docos describe that I could pilfer?
what exactely is the problem ? qmail-scanner is running here
on different servers without any problem. Is suidperl a+rxs ?
What is the error message ? Have you checked the faq?
Good luck
Olivier
PS: there is also a qmail-scanner ML...
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When running the qmail script with the test flag:
ns1:/usr/src/qmail-scanner-0.95# ./qmail-scanner-queue.pl -g
Script is not setuid/setgid in suidperl
ns1:/usr/src/qmail-scanner-0.95#
Cool, I've seen a solution for this in the FAQ:
<snipped from FAQ>
Can't do suid some perl distributions
have decided that as running suid perl scripts is a rare event, they
won't
enable it by default. On these systems this package won't work.
Typically
the fix is:
chown root /usr/bin/suidperl
chmod 4711 /usr/bin/suidperl
<snipped>
But the permissions look correct:
chown root /usr/bin/suidperl-5.004
chmod 4711 /usr/bin/suidperl-5.004
ls -l /usr/bin/suidperl-5.004
-rws--x--x 2 root root 499916 Mar 8 2000 suidperl-5.004
Now retrying gives:
ns1:/usr/src/qmail-scanner-0.95# ./qmail-scanner-queue.pl -g
Script is not setuid/setgid in suidperl
ns1:/usr/src/qmail-scanner-0.95#
Trying the test script gives:
ns1:/usr/src/qmail-scanner-0.95/contrib# ./test_installation.sh -doit
setting QMAILQUEUE to /var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl for this
test...
Sending eicar test virus - should be caught by perlscanner module...
Script is not setuid/setgid in suidperl
qmail-inject: fatal: qq temporary problem (#4.3.0)
done!
Sending eicar test virus with altered filename - should only be caught
by commercial anti-virus modules (if you have any)...
Script is not setuid/setgid in suidperl
qmail-inject: fatal: qq temporary problem (#4.3.0)
Done!
I've also recompiled the latest stable perl 5.6.0 from source and it's
got setuid support in it, but still same errors.
Cheers
Chris
>>> "Olivier M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/22/01 10:38a.m. >>>
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 10:19:28AM +1300, Chris Hellberg wrote:
> I've tried getting qmail-scanner to work and don't seem to have much
> luck as the suidperl binary won't allow the perl qmail scanner script
to
> run under suid root. Anyone written a suitable wrapper that the
> qmail-scanner docos describe that I could pilfer?
what exactely is the problem ? qmail-scanner is running here
on different servers without any problem. Is suidperl a+rxs ?
What is the error message ? Have you checked the faq?
Good luck
Olivier
PS: there is also a qmail-scanner ML...
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>>> "Davi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/22/01 12:02p.m. >>>
On Wednesday 21 February 2001 19:19, you wrote:
> I've tried getting qmail-scanner to work and don't seem to have much
> luck as the suidperl binary won't allow the perl qmail scanner script
to
> run under suid root. Anyone written a suitable wrapper that the
> qmail-scanner docos describe that I could pilfer?
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
You must chmod 4755 both /usr/bin/suidperl and qmail-scanner-queue.pl
Some distros, as SuSE, automatically (well, almost) chmod 755
/usr/bin/suidperl back. Take a look at it. Also take a look at the last
suidperl exploit at bugtraq.
[]s
Davi
Good stuff. Cheers Davi, seems to have worked. Although now I've
discovered that I've got my Time::HiRes module all bad so I spose I'm
making progress though.
Chris
First time on this list and a qmail newbie. Please excuse my ignorance.
I have a Linux 6.2 box with qmail, bind8 and apache on it. It was installed
by a Linux consultant. It is currently in pre-production stage with very
low traffic; 30 send/receive per hour at most. My beta-testers on lan
complain of two problems.
1. From the time <Send> is clicked in Netscape 4.75 on NT, and the
completion takes 15-20 seconds. Size of email makes no difference. Most of
the time, Netscape simply says "Connecting to server". Then, in a flash,
it's sent.
2. Some of the Netscape users complain that they frequently get error
message indicating that there may be network problem or server may have
closed the connection.
Can someone tell me where to begin to look to troubleshoot this?
Thanks in advance,
jean
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 03:49:06PM -0800, JK wrote:
> I have a Linux 6.2 box with qmail, bind8 and apache on it. It was installed
> by a Linux consultant. It is currently in pre-production stage with very
> low traffic; 30 send/receive per hour at most. My beta-testers on lan
> complain of two problems.
>
> 1. From the time <Send> is clicked in Netscape 4.75 on NT, and the
> completion takes 15-20 seconds. Size of email makes no difference. Most of
> the time, Netscape simply says "Connecting to server". Then, in a flash,
> it's sent.
>
> 2. Some of the Netscape users complain that they frequently get error
> message indicating that there may be network problem or server may have
> closed the connection.
>
> Can someone tell me where to begin to look to troubleshoot this?
This question comes up every three minutes or so on this list. The reason this
happens is that the you're waiting for either a DNS or an ident request to time
out.
To solve your problem, investigate the -R, -H, and -l (that's dash ell) options
to tcpserver (assuming you're using tcpserver, which, if you're not, you should
be). If it's a DNS request that's timing out, you might also investigate the
cause of the DNS failure.
Chris
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JK wrote:
> 1. From the time <Send> is clicked in Netscape 4.75 on NT, and the
> completion takes 15-20 seconds...
>
> 2. Some of the Netscape users complain that they frequently get error
> message indicating that there may be network problem or server may have
> closed the connection.
>
> Can someone tell me where to begin to look to troubleshoot this?
How was qmail installed by the consultant? Do you know if it's using inetd
or tcpserver (or something more exotic) to listen to the SMTP port?
My guess is your server is trying to do ident queries (port 113) which are
disappearing into never-never land. tcpserver has an option to disable
this, not sure about inetd.
---Kris Kelley
I encountered this problem not long ago and it was fixed by implementing a
split DNS. I would recommend you look into split DNS and see how it would
help your mail system resolve the name of the clients.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kris Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:58 PM
To: QMail Mailing List
Subject: Re: Slow connection on send & Server connection closed
JK wrote:
> 1. From the time <Send> is clicked in Netscape 4.75 on NT, and the
> completion takes 15-20 seconds...
>
> 2. Some of the Netscape users complain that they frequently get error
> message indicating that there may be network problem or server may have
> closed the connection.
>
> Can someone tell me where to begin to look to troubleshoot this?
How was qmail installed by the consultant? Do you know if it's using inetd
or tcpserver (or something more exotic) to listen to the SMTP port?
My guess is your server is trying to do ident queries (port 113) which are
disappearing into never-never land. tcpserver has an option to disable
this, not sure about inetd.
---Kris Kelley
Sorry I forgot to include a link to a very good article that talks about
split DNS implementations. Here it is.
http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue45/tag/11.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Kris Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:58 PM
To: QMail Mailing List
Subject: Re: Slow connection on send & Server connection closed
JK wrote:
> 1. From the time <Send> is clicked in Netscape 4.75 on NT, and the
> completion takes 15-20 seconds...
>
> 2. Some of the Netscape users complain that they frequently get error
> message indicating that there may be network problem or server may have
> closed the connection.
>
> Can someone tell me where to begin to look to troubleshoot this?
How was qmail installed by the consultant? Do you know if it's using inetd
or tcpserver (or something more exotic) to listen to the SMTP port?
My guess is your server is trying to do ident queries (port 113) which are
disappearing into never-never land. tcpserver has an option to disable
this, not sure about inetd.
---Kris Kelley
Thanks for the suggestion, Chris. Yes, I am running tcpserver. DNS-wise,
the box has very basic DNS records, just enough to know itself. The
forwarder is set to isp's name server which is one hop away. This is a lone
Linux in a predominantly NT environment and I am trying to tansition some
services to Linux as everyone seems breathless about stability. I have DNS
running on NT4 and DEC VMS. NT4 & DEC contain records for lan hosts. On
the client-side, name-resolution doesn't seem to be a problem; receive just
flies! It is only on the send side that it crawls.
jean
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:56 PM
To: JK
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Slow connection on send & Server connection closed
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 03:49:06PM -0800, JK wrote:
> I have a Linux 6.2 box with qmail, bind8 and apache on it. It was
installed
> by a Linux consultant. It is currently in pre-production stage with very
> low traffic; 30 send/receive per hour at most. My beta-testers on lan
> complain of two problems.
>
> 1. From the time <Send> is clicked in Netscape 4.75 on NT, and the
> completion takes 15-20 seconds. Size of email makes no difference. Most
of
> the time, Netscape simply says "Connecting to server". Then, in a flash,
> it's sent.
>
> 2. Some of the Netscape users complain that they frequently get error
> message indicating that there may be network problem or server may have
> closed the connection.
>
> Can someone tell me where to begin to look to troubleshoot this?
This question comes up every three minutes or so on this list. The reason
this
happens is that the you're waiting for either a DNS or an ident request to
time
out.
To solve your problem, investigate the -R, -H, and -l (that's dash ell)
options
to tcpserver (assuming you're using tcpserver, which, if you're not, you
should
be). If it's a DNS request that's timing out, you might also investigate the
cause of the DNS failure.
Chris
It is using tcpserver. Could be ident queries. The firewall is wide-open
for outbound, but inbound, only smtp & dns are allowed. I'll play with the
firewall setting to see if it makes a diff! Thanks for the input.
jean
-----Original Message-----
From: Kris Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:58 PM
To: QMail Mailing List
Subject: Re: Slow connection on send & Server connection closed
JK wrote:
> 1. From the time <Send> is clicked in Netscape 4.75 on NT, and the
> completion takes 15-20 seconds...
>
> 2. Some of the Netscape users complain that they frequently get error
> message indicating that there may be network problem or server may have
> closed the connection.
>
> Can someone tell me where to begin to look to troubleshoot this?
How was qmail installed by the consultant? Do you know if it's using inetd
or tcpserver (or something more exotic) to listen to the SMTP port?
My guess is your server is trying to do ident queries (port 113) which are
disappearing into never-never land. tcpserver has an option to disable
this, not sure about inetd.
---Kris Kelley
Split DNS refers to internal & external? Currently, only internal addresses
have been entered. Is split DNS complicated?
thanks,
jean
-----Original Message-----
From: Campos Mario [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:05 PM
To: 'Kris Kelley'; QMail Mailing List
Subject: RE: Slow connection on send & Server connection closed
I encountered this problem not long ago and it was fixed by implementing a
split DNS. I would recommend you look into split DNS and see how it would
help your mail system resolve the name of the clients.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kris Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:58 PM
To: QMail Mailing List
Subject: Re: Slow connection on send & Server connection closed
JK wrote:
> 1. From the time <Send> is clicked in Netscape 4.75 on NT, and the
> completion takes 15-20 seconds...
>
> 2. Some of the Netscape users complain that they frequently get error
> message indicating that there may be network problem or server may have
> closed the connection.
>
> Can someone tell me where to begin to look to troubleshoot this?
How was qmail installed by the consultant? Do you know if it's using inetd
or tcpserver (or something more exotic) to listen to the SMTP port?
My guess is your server is trying to do ident queries (port 113) which are
disappearing into never-never land. tcpserver has an option to disable
this, not sure about inetd.
---Kris Kelley
I have two tcpserver processes running, one with -v -p -x switches and the
other with -H -R. I don't see -l.
jean
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:56 PM
To: JK
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Slow connection on send & Server connection closed
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 03:49:06PM -0800, JK wrote:
> I have a Linux 6.2 box with qmail, bind8 and apache on it. It was
installed
> by a Linux consultant. It is currently in pre-production stage with very
> low traffic; 30 send/receive per hour at most. My beta-testers on lan
> complain of two problems.
>
> 1. From the time <Send> is clicked in Netscape 4.75 on NT, and the
> completion takes 15-20 seconds. Size of email makes no difference. Most
of
> the time, Netscape simply says "Connecting to server". Then, in a flash,
> it's sent.
>
> 2. Some of the Netscape users complain that they frequently get error
> message indicating that there may be network problem or server may have
> closed the connection.
>
> Can someone tell me where to begin to look to troubleshoot this?
This question comes up every three minutes or so on this list. The reason
this
happens is that the you're waiting for either a DNS or an ident request to
time
out.
To solve your problem, investigate the -R, -H, and -l (that's dash ell)
options
to tcpserver (assuming you're using tcpserver, which, if you're not, you
should
be). If it's a DNS request that's timing out, you might also investigate the
cause of the DNS failure.
Chris
Dear qmail
I have fix the queue using queue-fix. It unlinked some file under
/var/qmail/queue/remote,
but now I still can see the Warning messages in the maillog? Is there something wrong?
Another question(that is also why I removed the queue), I have noticed for days,now
it becomes
more and more unbearable. That is,it is very slowly when we receive mails through
POP3. The
strange thing is that when you have received the mails then receive mails again
immediately,
it is very quickly. These days this situation is very common. I'm not sure what's the
problem.
It the problem of our Mail System or the problem of the network. My mail system is:
FreeBSD+qmail+vpopmail+sqwebmail.Thank you.
flint
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This has to be something simple but I've been banging my
head against it for a couple of hours and can't get
anywhere. If this is covered in the FAQ, INSTALL or man
files, I either can't find it or am misunderstanding it.
The situation:
I have a small home network. I have a designated server,
corwin.mydomain.org, running qmail on debian 2.2 with kernel
2.4.1. I can locally log into corwin, open pine, and send
and recieve email.
My normal box, merlin.mydomain.org, uses kmail. I have it
configured to receive email via pop3 from corwin. This
works fine. I can send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
receive it on merlin via corwin. I also have kmail on
merlin configured to send email via SMTP on corwin.
However, everything I send gets bounced - relaying denied
because "that domain isn't in my rcpthosts file." I have
tried all of the following in my rcpthosts file on corwin:
mydomain.org
.mydomain.org
merlin
merlin.mydomain.org
I'm not sure if it matters but merlin is listed in my hosts
file on corwin. I can ping either merlin or
merlin.riddlemaster.org from corwin.
What do I need to do to convince corwin to relay mail from
merlin? Thanks in advance for any assistance.
> This has to be something simple but I've been banging my
> head against it for a couple of hours and can't get
> anywhere. If this is covered in the FAQ, INSTALL or man
> files, I either can't find it or am misunderstanding it.
> The situation:
>
> I have a small home network. I have a designated server,
> corwin.mydomain.org, running qmail on debian 2.2 with kernel
> 2.4.1. I can locally log into corwin, open pine, and send
> and recieve email.
>
> My normal box, merlin.mydomain.org, uses kmail. I have it
> configured to receive email via pop3 from corwin. This
> works fine. I can send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
> receive it on merlin via corwin. I also have kmail on
> merlin configured to send email via SMTP on corwin.
> However, everything I send gets bounced - relaying denied
> because "that domain isn't in my rcpthosts file." I have
> tried all of the following in my rcpthosts file on corwin:
>
> mydomain.org
> .mydomain.org
> merlin
> merlin.mydomain.org
>
> I'm not sure if it matters but merlin is listed in my hosts
> file on corwin. I can ping either merlin or
> merlin.riddlemaster.org from corwin.
>
> What do I need to do to convince corwin to relay mail from
> merlin? Thanks in advance for any assistance.
If you want corwin to _relay_ mail from merlin, that is not something that
goes in the rcpthosts file - that file should only contain domains that
you want merlin to _accept_ mail for, not relay.
You need to modify your /etc/tcp.smtp file, which controlls
relaying. Don't forget to run tcprules after you change it, to
"compile" it. if you are using the LWQ qmail start file, just do:
/etc.rc.d/init.d/qmail cdb
Actual path may vary with disro/OS.
HTH
--Pete
Hi all,
Thanks to many on the list , most of my questions have been answered !
My office Lan has a fictitious domain, adventus.cxm . Qmail runs on
server.adventus.cxm ( IP = 192.168.1.254 ) . The firewall / gateway machine
( IP= 192.168.32.1 ) is connected to the Net over ISDN dialup.
We wish to setup virtualdomains for our users to allow them access to their
POP mail from
different providers .My /var/qmail/control/smtproutes contains a single
line :smtp.myisp.net .
smtp.myisp.net does not relay emails from my system , because it does not
recognise
server.adventus.cxm .
Fetchmail is working correctly ! What do i need to do about the SMTP bit ?
Sincerely
Anurag
sorry for this question,
how to log rblsmtpd conversation in to /var/log/qmail or other place?
Hi All,
I have a new LINUX mechine. It will dedicated to used for email
server. The Old Email-Server is M$-Exchange. Is there any solutions
to migrate all the mailboxes and email-accounts from MS-Exchange to
Qmail and it will not impact to "user-site". So the users does't have
to modify anything at their email-client configuration. The email
server is only used in LAN for ingoing/outgoing emails.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards,
Tonka Sesarino
Tonka Sesarino
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ : 19017463
Hello
I've tested my qmail system with the following two
perl scripts, downloaded from www.qmail.org
perl qmail-qsanity-0_52
did not display anything does that mean..that my
Qmail Queue system is set right. or what does it really mean.
perl qmail-lint-0_55
Warning: users/assign
checking not implemented.
What does that warning mean...Is it really bad?
what can i do to make this error disppear.
Regards
Sumith
|
hi,
my qmail-qstat shows me over 4000 mails and its
increasing. why arent the mails being delivered ??
urgent !
TIA,
- sg.
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