Hi everybody!!!
There is a further development on the case with the strange
(at least for me) behaviour of some smtp servers ( for 
example usa.net servers) not being able to send mail to my 
poor qmail1.03 server.
I made an account on usa.net send my self a letter and 
finnaly it bounced back. It is amazing but they use qmail 
too!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is the bounced message:::

usa.net bounced message start!!!!---------------------------
---------------

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at 
nwcst322.netaddress.usa.net.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the 
following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't 
work out.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Connected to 193.200.17.182 but connection died. Possible 
duplicate!
I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the 
queue too long.

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 9584 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Feb 2001 
10:00:33 -0000
Message-ID: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from 204.68.23.67 by nwcst322 for 
[207.241.163.22] via
web-mailer(34FM.0700.15B.01) on Fri Feb 23 10:00:33 GMT 2001
Date: 23 Feb 2001 03:00:33 MST
From: Sasun Pundev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Alexander Georgiev" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [eeee]
X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (34FM.0700.15B.01)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

"Alexander Georgiev" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

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 Attachment:=A0 =

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eurorisksystems


____________________________________________________________
________
Get free email and a permanent address at 
http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D=
1
usa.net bounced message end!!!!-----------------------------
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Where is the long expected guru that is to solve this 
matter???




----- Оригинално писмо ------
От: Saso Dundev [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Относно: Re: Re: Cannot receive mail from some sites
До : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Изпратено на: 25.02.2001 13:13:27
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Hi,
Thank you very much Charles!
I did post a log from the failed session made with 
recordio. One can see that the remote site seize 
transmition after issuing: "DATA?" and my site responds 
with:"354 go ahead?". My site does not receive anything 
else and qmail-smtp timeouts. For example see session with 
pid 2826. I am posting the session log as attachment as 
well, because my web based client eats the "" signs.
If the problems is in the remote site violeting the "rn",
what can I do. Is there a fix????


session log start:----------------
Feb 22 23:49:53 gw smtpd: 982878593.400905 tcpserver: pid 
2826 from 194.221.211.145
Feb 22 23:50:19 gw smtpd: 982878619.435991 tcpserver: ok 
2826 eurorisksystems.com:193.200.17.182:25 
vwmail4.hypovereinsbank.de:194.221.211.145::59228
Feb 22 23:50:19 gw smtpd: 982878619.454757 2826  220 
ms.eurorisksystems.com ESMTP? 
Feb 22 23:50:22 gw smtpd: 982878622.354098 2826  EHLO 
vwmail.HypoVereinsbank.DE? 
Feb 22 23:50:22 gw smtpd: 982878622.358529 2826  250-
ms.eurorisksystems.com? 
Feb 22 23:50:22 gw smtpd: 982878622.361590 2826  250-
PIPELINING? 
Feb 22 23:50:22 gw smtpd: 982878622.364295 2826  250 
8BITMIME? 
Feb 22 23:50:23 gw smtpd: 982878623.783361 2826  MAIL 
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]? 
Feb 22 23:50:23 gw smtpd: 982878623.787308 2826  250 ok? 
Feb 22 23:50:25 gw smtpd: 982878625.563224 2826  RCPT 
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]? 
Feb 22 23:50:25 gw smtpd: 982878625.568568 2826  250 ok? 
Feb 22 23:50:27 gw smtpd: 982878627.139794 2826  DATA? 
Feb 22 23:50:27 gw smtpd: 982878627.153254 2826  354 go 
ahead? 
Feb 22 23:54:10 gw smtpd: 982878850.895510 2818  451 
timeout (#4.4.2)? 
Feb 22 23:54:10 gw smtpd: 982878850.898664 2818  [EOF]
Feb 22 23:54:10 gw smtpd: 982878850.909532 tcpserver: end 
2818 status 256
Feb 22 23:54:10 gw smtpd: 982878850.914715 tcpserver: 
status: 2/40
Feb 22 23:57:12 gw smtpd: 982879032.075360 tcpserver: 
status: 3/40
Feb 22 23:57:12 gw smtpd: 982879032.080109 tcpserver: pid 
2831 from 193.158.192.31
Feb 22 23:57:14 gw smtpd: 982879034.501498 tcpserver: ok 
2831 eurorisksystems.com:193.200.17.182:25 vwmail-
b.hypovereinsbank.de:193.158.192.31::55482
Feb 22 23:57:14 gw smtpd: 982879034.519838 2831  220 
ms.eurorisksystems.com ESMTP? 
Feb 22 23:57:15 gw smtpd: 982879035.885164 2831  EHLO 
vwmail-b.HypoVereinsbank.de? 
Feb 22 23:57:15 gw smtpd: 982879035.888215 2831  250-
ms.eurorisksystems.com? 
Feb 22 23:57:15 gw smtpd: 982879035.890929 2831  250-
PIPELINING? 
Feb 22 23:57:15 gw smtpd: 982879035.893633 2831  250 
8BITMIME? 
Feb 22 23:57:27 gw smtpd: 982879047.679537 2831  MAIL 
From:? 
Feb 22 23:57:27 gw smtpd: 982879047.683208 2831  250 ok? 
Feb 22 23:57:28 gw smtpd: 982879048.914208 2831  RCPT 
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]? 
Feb 22 23:57:28 gw smtpd: 982879048.917883 2831  250 ok? 
Feb 22 23:57:30 gw smtpd: 982879050.464026 2831  DATA? 
Feb 22 23:57:30 gw smtpd: 982879050.475434 2831  354 go 
ahead? 
Feb 23 00:01:02 gw smtpd: 982879262.959661 tcpserver: 
status: 4/40
Feb 23 00:01:02 gw smtpd: 982879262.964829 tcpserver: pid 
2845 from 194.221.211.145
Feb 23 00:01:28 gw smtpd: 982879288.995972 tcpserver: ok 
2845 eurorisksystems.com:193.200.17.182:25 
vwmail4.hypovereinsbank.de:194.221.211.145::59740
Feb 23 00:01:29 gw smtpd: 982879289.015136 2845  220 
ms.eurorisksystems.com ESMTP? 
Feb 23 00:01:30 gw smtpd: 982879290.037731 2845  EHLO 
vwmail.HypoVereinsbank.DE? 
Feb 23 00:01:30 gw smtpd: 982879290.040721 2845  250-
ms.eurorisksystems.com? 
Feb 23 00:01:30 gw smtpd: 982879290.043457 2845  250-
PIPELINING? 
Feb 23 00:01:30 gw smtpd: 982879290.046194 2845  250 
8BITMIME? 
Feb 23 00:01:31 gw smtpd: 982879291.457610 2845  MAIL 
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]? 
Feb 23 00:01:31 gw smtpd: 982879291.461524 2845  250 ok? 
Feb 23 00:01:33 gw smtpd: 982879293.127466 2845  RCPT 
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]? 
Feb 23 00:01:33 gw smtpd: 982879293.131349 2845  250 ok? 
Feb 23 00:01:34 gw smtpd: 982879294.897281 2845  DATA? 
Feb 23 00:01:34 gw smtpd: 982879294.909681 2845  354 go 
ahead? 
Feb 23 00:02:25 gw smtpd: 982879345.847132 2823  451 
timeout (#4.4.2)? 
Feb 23 00:02:25 gw smtpd: 982879345.859363 2823  [EOF]
Feb 23 00:02:25 gw smtpd: 982879345.862978 tcpserver: end 
2823 status 256
Feb 23 00:02:25 gw smtpd: 982879345.865111 tcpserver: 
status: 3/40
Feb 23 00:08:26 gw smtpd: 982879706.896561 tcpserver: 
status: 4/40
Feb 23 00:08:26 gw smtpd: 982879706.900966 tcpserver: pid 
2848 from 194.221.211.145
Feb 23 00:08:53 gw smtpd: 982879733.705930 tcpserver: ok 
2848 eurorisksystems.com:193.200.17.182:25 
vwmail4.hypovereinsbank.de:194.221.211.145::60191
Feb 23 00:08:53 gw smtpd: 982879733.725160 2848  220 
ms.eurorisksystems.com ESMTP? 
Feb 23 00:08:57 gw smtpd: 982879737.562845 2848  EHLO 
vwmail.HypoVereinsbank.DE? 
Feb 23 00:08:57 gw smtpd: 982879737.566764 2848  250-
ms.eurorisksystems.com? 
Feb 23 00:08:57 gw smtpd: 982879737.569507 2848  250-
PIPELINING? 
Feb 23 00:08:57 gw smtpd: 982879737.572209 2848  250 
8BITMIME? 
Feb 23 00:08:59 gw smtpd: 982879739.230800 2848  MAIL 
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]? 
Feb 23 00:08:59 gw smtpd: 982879739.233885 2848  250 ok? 
Feb 23 00:09:00 gw smtpd: 982879740.906551 2848  RCPT 
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]? 
Feb 23 00:09:00 gw smtpd: 982879740.910252 2848  250 ok? 
Feb 23 00:09:02 gw smtpd: 982879742.787501 2848  DATA? 
Feb 23 00:09:02 gw smtpd: 982879742.799031 2848  354 go 
ahead? 
Feb 23 00:10:27 gw smtpd: 982879827.147181 2826  451 
timeout (#4.4.2)? 
Feb 23 00:10:27 gw smtpd: 982879827.156967 2826  [EOF]
Feb 23 00:10:27 gw smtpd: 982879827.162034 tcpserver: end 
2826 status 256
session log end:----------------




----- Original letter------
От: Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Относно: Re: Cannot receive mail from some sites
До : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Изпратено на: 23.02.2001 18:40:46
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Saso Dundev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I can receive mail from almost all sites in the net ( 
for example yahoo.com),
 but there are few that cannot send mail to me ( for 
example the usa.net
 servers). They establish a connection but seize data 
transmition and qmail
 timeouts. 

This could be an issue with SMTP line endings -- the 
particular remote sites
which are having problems sending to you may be violating 
the spec by
not sending rn, particularly at the end of the DATA phase.

Use recordio with qmail-smtpd to record an example of the 
faulty session.
If the resulting log doesn't mean anything to you, post it 
here.
See djb's site and www.qmail.org for info on how to set up 
and use recordio.

Charles
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Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
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