hi i don't know perhaps i would better ask in a vpopmail-list but i think i'm right here also so i'll ask... and please don't flame me ;-) i've patched qmail with the smtp-auth patch of http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/ and everything works fine (also with vpopmail) as long as i use plain-login. now i would be happy if i could use cram-md5 authentication, but i haven't found a way to do this (with vpopmail) ? anybody who has got a solution for that, i would be veeeery happy! thank ya greets Martin -- http://www.kos.li/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +41-76-384-93-33 ICQ# 13556143 Say NO to HTML in mail and news Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux. See http://www.debian.org/