Joshua Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No need for a special header; there are options to qmail-inject
> > to make qmail
> > use per-recipient VERP.
> >
> > Handling the bounces is up to you; in essence, you create a
> > .qmail-something-default file and pipe the messages to a script of your
> > choosing.  In your case, you'd just log the "$DEFAULT" portion to a file.
> 
> What I'd like to do though, is take advantage of the ~20 day testing that
> ezmlm provides.  I don't want to end up unsubscribing people because of an
> "Out of office" message or a temporary errors like "mailbox full" unless
> they've been occurring for a few weeks.

Your previous message seemed to imply you wanted to do this manually, based on
a record of what recipients bounced.  That's why I suggested just logging
"$DEFAULT".

> If I understand the documentation correctly, VERP will just add the
> recipient address (or certain other info) to the envelope, and I don't see
> how that helps me.  If I set up a .qmail-something file, and then piped all
> the messages through a script, wouldn't that catch ALL messages (misdirected
> unsubscribes, out of office, mailbox full, delivery delays, etc.)?

Not all -- it only appears in the envelope sender.  People are extremely
unlikely to send to that address with unsubscription requests (although that
would actually _help_ you), etc.  Autoresponders are of course a problem, but
if your message appears to be a mailing list message (Precedence: bulk, etc
headers), any well-written autoresponder will not respond to it.

Note that >50% of the autoresponders out there are _not_ well-written.

> Or, are you saying that duplicating this is just a matter of using VERP and
> writing my own ezmlm-warn and ezmlm-return?  Heh, "just"...

If you want to use ezmlm, you can edit the appropriate script file to only
remove the "automatically unsubscribe after the probe bounces" step, and
replace that with a step that logs the username or emails you, or electrifies
your chair.  Your choice.

Charles
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