True, it just has to be incremented, but it's hard to tell if it's been 
updated if it's not using the date.  Upon a second look it does appear 
someone has added another digit to it too... yuck.  I'd hate to try and keep 
up with the updates to zone files not in date format.

George

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Espinoza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can not recieve mail


Serial numbesr do not have to follow the date. It's a suggestion and
not a requirement of the protocol.

Erik

On 9/25/06, Chris Marcellin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  I hear you. I already went to my registrar's DNS configuration, and 
> updated
> it. The last time i changed the serial was yesterday. what do you mean 
> last
> updated in 2004? how can you determine by the serial the last update, this
> is new to me, please give me more info.
>  Thans George
>
>
>  George Sweetnam wrote:
>
> Make sure to login to your registrars account and modify the name servers
> created for your domian (for directnic I choose the "modify name servers")
> This is not to be confused with modifying dns servers listed for your
> domain.  If it's not changed there nothing will update properly.  Also,
> don't be fooled into thinking changing ip's will work.  It's named
> based...the ip's will follow.
>
> Actually, upon reading your zone file... try updating the serial... it was
> last updated in 2004 according to it's value.
>
> George
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Chris Marcellin
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can not recieve mail
>
>  oh, you said parent servers. sorry, i thought you meant my "DNS bind"
> servers. yeah, it does look like it is stemming from the parent servers,
> but, unfortunately i have no control over that, and like i said it's had
> more than enough time to propagate. is there a way to fix this?
>
>  Chris Marcellin wrote:
> Jon;
>
>  I know, that's the test i did to confirm my problems. The records at my
> parent servers are fine.
>  here's a copy of my bind zone file for canus.org:
>
>  $TTL    86400
>  $ORIGIN canus.org.
>  @               IN      SOA     ns1.canus.org. postmaster.canus.org. (
>                                  2004042731      ; serial
>                                  21600           ; refresh
>                                  3600            ; retry
>                                  604800          ; expires
>                                  86400 )         ; minimum
>
>
>                  IN      NS      ns1.canus.org.
>
>                  IN      NS      ns.teksavvy.com.
>
>                  IN      NS      mail.canus.org.
>
>                  IN      MX      10      webmail.canus.org.
>
>                  IN      A       206.248.143.18
>
>
>  ns1             IN      A       206.248.143.18
>  mail            IN      A       206.248.143.19
>  www             IN      A       206.248.143.18
>  pop3            IN      A       206.248.143.19
>  smtp            IN      A       206.248.143.19
>  webmail         IN      A       206.248.143.19
>
>  _domainkey.canus.org IN TXT "t=y; o=-; [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>
>  private._domainkey      IN      TXT     "k=rsa;
> p=MEwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADOwAwOA
> IxAMAUw1o85CevJFR9sE6a271S5LNbKCAMnVCFQvnKvdZHhwxGd+nvwgtTSptGEylx1QIDAQAB"
>
>  canus.org.              IN      TXT     "v=spf1 ip4:206.248.143.16/29
> ip4:206.24
>  8.139.43 a mx ptr ~all"
>
>  webmail.canus.org.      IN      TXT "v=spf1 a -all"
>
>
>
>  Jon Darrington wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> Have a quick look at:
>
> http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=canus.org
>
> it suggests that the problems stem from differences with your records at
> your parent servers.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
>  From: Chris Marcellin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: 24 September 2006 21:21
>  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>  Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can not recieve mail
>
>  to make matters even more interesting. i have a dns problem. i can't 
> figure
> it out, as well, and my ISP's DNS administrator can't figure it out too. a
> while back, my dns servers were, ns.canus.org and ns1.canus.org,
> ns1.teksavvy.com. however, i changed that to ns1.canus.org, and
> mail.canus.org. i did all the configurations correctly, and it's been 
> about
> 4 weeks now that i have made the changes,  so, it has had plenty of time 
> for
> the root servers to propagate. but, the root servers still have 
> ns.canus.org
> in their database. and because of that, my dns isn't working perfectly.
> anyone have any ideas what the problem or solution can be.
>
>
>
>  Jon Darrington wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I could not get an smtp reply or any other typical response (http, https,
> icmp - ping), so thought there was no server there - hence the question as
> to had your ip changed.
>
> Glad it's all sorted now,
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
>  From: Chris Marcellin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: 24 September 2006 15:27
>  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>  Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can not recieve mail
>
>  Hi Jon;
>
>  sorry, i should have replied back to my message. the funny thing is, when 
> i
> connection got dropped, and while i was troubleshooting it with my ISP, 
> they
> forgot to
>  re-enable my subnet of static ip's. i finally figured that out when i 
> just
> couldn't get any sort of replied from outside regarding smtp. i then 
> called
> them and asked
>  if whether my static ip's were set, oooops.
>  so, I thank you Jon. just out of curiosity, what sort of replies did you
> get when you looked up those ip's below?
>
>  Chris
>
>  Jon Darrington wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> I have no idea of what kind of connnection you are on, but have you 
> checked
> that when the connection was dropped they did not change your ip.
>
> I have just done a couple of lookups and get different replies ie
> 206.248.143.18 and 206.248.143.19 for smtp.canus.org.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
>  From: Chris Marcellin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: 23 September 2006 20:02
>  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>  Subject: [qmailtoaster] can not recieve mail
>
>
>
>
> Hi everyone;
>
> yesterday, my connection got dropped for about 2 hours.
>
> and ever since then, i can send mail, but, for some very strange
>
> reason, i can not receive mail. I pretty much played with everything i
> thought of. turned off the firewall on the toaster, checked to make sure 
> the
> right ports (smtp, pop3, imap, http, etc..) were open on my router. 
> checked
> the queue (nothing), checked my smtp, send, pop3 logs, nothing shows up in
> them when i try to send myself a mail from hotmail for example. and like i
> said, when i send, the logs are updated. it's as if there isn't a hole 
> open
> for smtp. anyone have any ideas? Please, I'm desperate. Unfortuanatley, 
> even
> if you answer, i won't get it. so, i would appreciate it if you could mail
> me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Oh, i forgot a couple of things. i re-installed the toaster, thinking
> something perhaps went wrong with the box. but, to no avail. Now, when i 
> try
> to send mail with thunderbird, i get the following message:
>
> I have an invalid certificate, and apparently i have the same serial 
> number
> as another one, i went and deleted all my certificates and serial numbers 
> in
> thunderbird, but, i keep on getting the same message. however, i can send
> from outlook (odd!!!). the second message i get from  thunderbird is: can
> not connect to smtp.canus.org, saying it is unavailable. yet, again, i can
> send from outlook. Argh!!!
>
> Thanx very much guys.
>  --
> I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how 
> to
> do it.
> Pablo Picasso (1881 - 1973)
>
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