Jared Markell wrote: > It usually syncs whenever you train it, by default.. You have to tell it > otherwise when manually teaching it.
I haven't done any training yet other than using autolearn. That kicks in periodically. > sa-learn --no-sync ..extra stuff here.. > > As per dsanchez's comment.. unless you have 24 hours a day free to monitor a > single server's usages, I wouldn't really suggest that. ;) I want an email > server that I can leave alone and trust that it will stay working for more > than at least a week without me baby sitting it. And, I got this server to > be able to be that way - if I disable Bayes. I agree 100%. I'd sure like to have it work reliably with these features turned on though. I think that's an achievable objective. > Jared > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric "Shubes" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:02 PM > To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com > Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] bayes getting corrupt > > For a low volume server, I've simply renamed the > /home/vpopmail/.spamassassin folder and let it recreate the bayes database. > I hope to have some time to fix things when it happens again (every 2-3 > weeks or so). I have saved the old .spamassassin folders though, so I can > restore them for testing if/when necessary. > > I'd hate to try to diagnose this on a high volume server, but I have a low > volume one that I could work with on a weekend, but it hasn't exhibited this > behavior yet. > > Hey, I just noticed something. The server that's not having this problem > shows # spamassassin -D bayes --lint [5499] dbg: bayes: DB journal sync: > last sync: 1161812436 (among other stuff) > > On the server with the problem, I get: > [6091] dbg: bayes: DB journal sync: last sync: 0 It apparently has never > sync'd. > > Perhaps that's the problem. What is supposed to be doing the syncing? When > is it supposed to happen? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Well it's time to monitoring cpu/mem before the problem gets worse, >> don't you think? >> >> >>> Yeah, I forgot that part all right. The SA process (task) maxes out >>> the cpu for a while, then seems to go idle until the smtp session >>> times out. This creates a backlog that snowballs. Not quite so bad on >>> a small domain, but very severe with higher volumes. >>> >>> Jared Markell wrote: >>>> You forgot about the part where things start to hang and your system >>>> tasks start to count in numbers.. and for me, at about 350+ tasks, >>>> performance degrades VERY badly, resulting in "user unknown" errors >>>> when users try to log in via pop3, or when connecting smtp servers >>>> try to deliver a message. >>>> >>>> In a nutshell, Bayes getting corrupt = many many phone calls >>>> "Wtf?!?" to me :( >>>> >>>> At any normal given point in time, my server should run at 140~ >>>> tasks at one time, so 300+ is bad. :) >>>> >>>> That's when I started upping my max children to hopefully scan more >>>> emails at a time, but that actually worked against me, causing Bayes >>>> to get corrupt much faster and thus clog things up much faster. >>>> >>>> Jared >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Eric "Shubes" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 3:25 PM >>>> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com >>>> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] bayes getting corrupt >>>> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>> BTW What is the effect of your corruption? >>>> Message: >>>> >>>> 2006-10-18 23:18:40.093043500 [30369] warn: bayes: cannot open bayes >>>> databases /home/vpopmail/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: >>>> File exists >>>> >>>> appears repeatedly in spamd log. The message is accepted ok >>>> (received in recipient's inbox), but the SMTP session terminates >>>> abnormally so the sending server resends the message, resulting in > duplicates. >>>> That's pretty much all I've determined at this point. Suggestions? >>>> >>>>> I do sa-learn --sync once per hour and haven't any problem (yet? >>>>> :-P ) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Would this be a good reason to use the MySQL Bayes storage engine? >>>>>> >>>>>> Q >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:45:31 -0700, Eric "Shubes" wrote: >>>>>>> Jared Markell wrote: >>>>>>>> Does anyone else have the problem of the Bayes database getting >>>>>>>> corrupt very often? My database has problems quite frequently, I >>>>>>>> usually have to delete the .spamassassin folder once every 3 >>>>>>>> days, and the only way to keep the server stable is just to >>>>>>>> disable Bayes checking all together. >>>>>>>> However, Bayes helps a lot and I would like to keep it if I >>>>>>>> could trust it not to corrupt and clog up the email server. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone else have these problems and/or have a solution? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Jared * >>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> I have this problem too. I've been renaming .spamassassin when it >>>>>>> starts happening, so I have the old files to do some diagnostics >>>>>>> with. I simply haven't gotten around to it, but would like very >>>>>>> much to >>>> get it fixed. >>>>>>> It seems to be ok until the point where tokens are due to expire. >>>>>>> I'm guessing that the expiration process has a problem, but don't >>>>>>> rightly know. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any cdb gurus here, or does anyone know of a fix in this area? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -Eric 'shubes' >>>>>>> >>> -- >>> -Eric 'shubes' >>> -- -Eric 'shubes' --------------------------------------------------------------------- QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted <http://www.vr.org> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
