> Rajesh,
> I understand your dilemma. It's sad that hotmail has this problem. Such
> things happen sometimes though. I guess the good news is that you have
> other servers that are not having this problem.
>
> Carlos points out two ways of handling the relay server, but I'm not
> sure that the alternatives are very clear.
>
> The gist of it is that you don't want to make the 2nd server an open
> relay, which means that you need to set up a trust mechanism between the
> 2 servers. This trust can be based on an IP address, or it can be based
> on authentication credentials (login/password).
>
> My preference is to use authentication. In this case, the first server
> simply has:
> hotmail.com:<server2.name.or.ip>:587 <RelayAccount> <RelayPassword>
> in its smtproutes file. On server2, you can then create the RelayAccount
> in some existing domain on server2 using qmailadmin. You need to include
> the entire account name (including @domain.com) in <RelayAccount>.
>
> If you choose to trust via IP address, you need to add an entry with the
> IP address of the 1st server in the 2nd server's tcp.smtp file, and do
> "qmailctl cdb" to make it effective. If you're using spamdyke, you
> should also whitelist the IP address of the 1st server in the
> whitelist_ip file. I think this method is a little more cumbersome, and
> not quite as secure (which I realize is debatable).
>
> We should probably have this written up on the wiki. Would someone like
> to handle this? TIA.
>
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
>
>
> On 11/23/2011 05:18 AM, Carlos Herrera Polo wrote:
>> In the second server you have to add in tcpserver file the first
>> server ip for relay.... If in the second server you have spamdyke then
>> change in the first server smtproute file the port 25 to 587 and
>> authenticate....
>>
>>
>> 2011/11/23, Rajesh M<24x7ser...@24x7server.net>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 11/22/2011 11:18 AM, Rajesh M wrote:
>>>>> hi
>>>>>
>>>>> due to some reason hotmail has gone crazy and blocking us
>>>>> continuously
>>>>> for
>>>>> a month. they claim that some spam email originated thru our server.
>>>>> however there own SNDS shows us as all green.
>>>>>
>>>>> for the past 10 days i have put hotmail.com in badmailto so that non
>>>>> of
>>>>> my
>>>>> users can send to hotmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> we have gone thru send logs and nowhere is hotmail seen
>>>>>
>>>>> still their support keep parroting the same typical answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> changing my dns settings means a lot of problem
>>>>>
>>>>> a lot of hardship to all my clients
>>>>>
>>>>> so i need to know if there is some way by which i can change my
>>>>> OUTGOING
>>>>> SMTP server ip address while my users continue to smtp authenicate
>>>>> using
>>>>> the same email server settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> rajesh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> If you have another server that's sending ok, you could use that one
>>>> as
>>>> a smarthost to relay email to hotmail. Simply use the smtproutes file
>>>> in
>>>> this case to route hotmail messages via your other server. Use of
>>>> account name and password is recommended for relays.
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively, provided you have an additional IP address available, I
>>>> *think* you could add a 2nd IP address to your QMT host's nic, then
>>>> change your routing table to use the alias device/ip as the gateway. I
>>>> haven't done this myself, but I *think* it would work. Someone please
>>>> correct me if I'm wrong about this.
>>>>
>>>> The best solution of course would be to get things working with
>>>> hotmail.
>>>> I realize that can be difficult at best given their support. You may
>>>> need to set up recordio on a session to see what's really going on
>>>> with
>>>> your smtp sessions with them. Provided that your SPF and DK/DKIM isn't
>>>> misconfigured, you might have a look at your settings related to
>>>> qmail-remote (man qmail-remote), such as helohost and your tls
>>>> clientcert.pem. I haven't heard of tls being a problem, but you might
>>>> try turning tls off for hotmail and see if that helps.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> -Eric 'shubes'
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> eric
>>>
>>> i have 2 additional servers using qmailtoaster all with the same data
>>> center and i could use any of those.
>>>
>>> my helo, spf, reverse dns records are all correct
>>> we continuously monitor our servers for outgoing spam -- there has been
>>> cases but we quickly stop those.
>>> my server ip is not listed in any spamdatabase and every server in the
>>> world accepts my email.
>>>
>>> i have joined the snds and junk email reporting program
>>> SNDS says - blocked manually or for spamming
>>> while their junk email reporting gives me all green reports
>>> so basically they contradict themselves
>>> their support people give typical answers like trained parrots
>>> on googling i found that there are 100s of others suffering due to
>>> their
>>> so called "SmartScreen filter"
>>>
>>> so i want to route only emails addressed to hotmail.com thru another
>>> server
>>>
>>> can you please guide me on this ie what should i enter in smtproutes ?
>>>
>>> let us say if i put in the smtproute file
>>> hotmail.com:ip.add.other.server
>>>
>>> all the emails to hotmail.com will be routed to the other server
>>>
>>> now what should i put in the other server so that it accepts the email
>>> and
>>> fowards it to hotmail ?
>>>
>>> thanks for all your help.
>>>
>>> rajesh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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eric
thanks very much for your detailed instructions
they worked great.
i am using smtp authentication which seems safe to me.
my problem server -- server1 - smtp routes file
hotmail.com:xxx.xxx:587 u...@domainonserver2.com pass
works great ..
now all i need to do is update the spf records of my domains on server1
rajesh
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