Have a look here: http://board.phpbuilder.com/showthread.php?10337158-RESOLVED-Warning-mail()-SMTP-server-response-503-RCPT-first-(-5-5-1)-in

and here: https://www.mail-archive.com/spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org/msg04199.html


Have the folks at those large domains made changes to their email servers, or do they use the same servers???

This does not look like an issue with your Qmailtoaster server. Sadly, it affects your clients.


On 11/4/2016 2:42 PM, ma...@demod.pl wrote:

After add recordio i see this:

spamdyke[10495]: DENIED_OTHER from: pl.efakt...@dhl.com to: xx...@xxxxxx.pl origin_ip: 85.90.252.62 origin_rdns: dhl-app-der.accountis.net auth: (unknown) encryption: TLS reason: 503_MAIL_first_(#5.5.1)

*From:*Eric Broch [mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com]
*Sent:* Friday, November 04, 2016 9:15 PM
*To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
*Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Qmail reject email from several domain Reason TIMEOUT

Sorry

recordio...

#!/bin/sh
QMAILDUID=`id -u vpopmail`
NOFILESGID=`id -g vpopmail`
MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming`
SPAMDYKE="/usr/bin/spamdyke"
SPAMDYKE_CONF="/etc/spamdyke/spamdyke.conf"
SMTPD="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd"
TCP_CDB="/etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp.cdb"
HOSTNAME=`hostname`
VCHKPW="/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw"
REQUIRE_AUTH=0

exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 64000000 \
     /usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l $HOSTNAME -x $TCP_CDB -c "$MAXSMTPD" \
     -u "$QMAILDUID" -g "$NOFILESGID" 0 smtp \
     /usr/bin/recordio \
     $SPAMDYKE --config-file $SPAMDYKE_CONF \
     $SMTPD $VCHKPW /bin/true 2>&1

On 11/4/2016 2:12 PM, Eric Broch wrote:

    Try using recordio

    #!/bin/sh
    QMAILDUID=`id -u vpopmail`
    NOFILESGID=`id -g vpopmail`
    MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming`
    SPAMDYKE="/usr/bin/spamdyke"
    SPAMDYKE_CONF="/etc/spamdyke/spamdyke.conf"
    SMTPD="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd"
    TCP_CDB="/etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp.cdb"
    HOSTNAME=`hostname`
    VCHKPW="/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw"
    REQUIRE_AUTH=0

    exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 64000000 \
         /usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l $HOSTNAME -x $TCP_CDB -c
    "$MAXSMTPD" \
         -u "$QMAILDUID" -g "$NOFILESGID" 0 smtp \
         $SPAMDYKE --config-file $SPAMDYKE_CONF \
         $SMTPD $VCHKPW /bin/true 2>&1

    On 11/4/2016 12:59 PM, ma...@demod.pl <mailto:ma...@demod.pl> wrote:

        Look, The sender get a reject message:

        > Diagnostic information for administrators:

        >

        > Generating server: mailgw02.man-mit.com

        >

        >zamowie...@xxxxx.pl <mailto:zamowie...@xxxxx.pl>

        > [77.253.207.97] #<[77.253.207.97] #5.0.0 smtp; 5.x.1 - Maximum number

        > of delivery attempts exceeded. [Default] 421-'Timeout. Talk faster

        > next time.' (delivery attempts: 100)> #SMTP#

        >

        > Original message headers:

        >

        > X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.31,476,1473112800";

        >    d="pdf'?scan'208";a="48824816"

        > Received: from unknown (HELO openrelay.mn-man.biz) ([10.7.81.87])  by

        > mailgw02.man-mit.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 11 Oct 2016 12:12:20

        > +0200

        > X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.31,476,1473112800";

        >    d="pdf'?scan'208";a="35414355"

        > Received: from mndemucpc035934.mn-man.biz (HELO

        > mndemuchub003.mn-man.biz)

        > ([10.128.60.217])  by openrelay.mn-man.biz with ESMTP; 11 Oct 2016

        > 12:12:29

        > +0200

        > Received: from MNPLSTWAP001 ([10.131.126.157])          by

        > ppmail01.man.com.pl (Lotus Domino Release 6.5.4)          with ESMTP

        > id 2016101112122306-44564 ;

        >           Tue, 11 Oct 2016 12:12:23 +0200

        > From: MAN POZNAN<einkaufpo...@man.eu> <mailto:einkaufpo...@man.eu>

        > To:"zamowie...@xxxxx.pl" <mailto:zamowie...@xxxxx.pl>
        <zamowie...@xxxxx.pl> <mailto:zamowie...@xxxxx.pl>

        > Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Zam=C3=B3wienie_automatyczne_/_Autob?=

        > =?UTF-8?Q?estellung_6510/16/AF,_2016-10-11?=

        > CC:"e9...@man.eu" <mailto:e9...@man.eu> <e9...@man.eu>
        <mailto:e9...@man.eu>, "einkaufpo...@man.eu"
        <mailto:einkaufpo...@man.eu>

        ><einkaufpo...@man.eu> <mailto:einkaufpo...@man.eu>

        > MIME-Version: 1.0

        > Message-ID:<113081937.1476180745336.javamail.webxl_nore...@man.eu>
        <mailto:113081937.1476180745336.javamail.webxl_nore...@man.eu>

        > Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 12:12:25 +0200

        > X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on

        > ppmail01/POZNAN/MAN_POLSKA/MAN_BUSPL(Release

        > 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 2016-10-11 12:12:23,

        >         Serialize by Router on

        > MNDEMUCHUB003/SRV/MAN_Nutzfahrzeuge(Release 7.0.2FP3|December
        13,

        > 2007) at 11.10.2016 12:12:28

        > Content-Type: text/plain

        >

        >

        But I see in my log this:

        2016-10-11 17:16:52.411561500 spamdyke[16443]: TIMEOUT from:
        einkaufpo...@man.eu <mailto:einkaufpo...@man.eu> to: (unknown)
        origin_ip: 151.136.108.88 origin_rdns: wgate1.mn.man.de auth:
        (unknown) encryption: TLS reason: TIMEOUT

        2016-10-11 17:18:05.060074500 spamdyke[16467]: TIMEOUT from:
        einkaufpo...@man.eu <mailto:einkaufpo...@man.eu> to: (unknown)
        origin_ip: 151.136.108.88 origin_rdns: mail1.man.de auth:
        (unknown) encryption: TLS reason: TIMEOUT

        from: einkaufpo...@man.eu <mailto:einkaufpo...@man.eu> to:
        (unknown) not: from: einkaufpo...@man.eu
        <mailto:einkaufpo...@man.eu> to: zamowie...@xxxxx.pl
        <mailto:zamowie...@xxxxx.pl>

        where find reason?

        *From:*Eric Broch [mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com]
        *Sent:* Friday, November 04, 2016 7:26 PM
        *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
        <mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com>
        *Subject:* RE: [qmailtoaster] Qmail reject email from several
        domain Reason TIMEOUT

        It looks like the email is going to no one, you could check in
        the send log at the same time, but I doubt any delivery is
        being made. It might be being rejected at 'policy.' It should
        be followed up with delivery. Below is what a complete smtp
        transaction looks like:

        <trans>

        @40000000581ccab11323ecdc tcpserver: status: 0/100
        @40000000581ccaef1914fb7c tcpserver: status: 1/100
        @40000000581ccaef192f0f44 tcpserver: pid 1542 from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
        @40000000581ccaef1931f574 tcpserver: ok 1542
        host.mydomain.tld:yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy:25 :xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx::46233
        @40000000581ccaf410b6483c CHKUSER accepted sender: from
        <sen...@remotedomain.tld::> <mailto:sen...@remotedomain.tld::>
        remote <sender-server.remote.ip.net:unknown:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx>
        rcpt <> : sender accepted
        @40000000581ccaf425ea9c94 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from
        <sen...@remotedomain.tld::> <mailto:sen...@remotedomain.tld::>
        remote <sender-server.remote.ip.net:unknown:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx>
        rcpt <recipi...@localdomain.tld>
        <mailto:recipi...@localdomain.tld> : found existing recipient
        @40000000581ccaf426022bd4 policy_check: remote
        sen...@remotedomain.tld <mailto:sen...@remotedomain.tld> ->
        local recipi...@localdomain.tld
        <mailto:recipi...@localdomain.tld> (UNAUTHENTICATED SENDER)
        @40000000581ccaf42603606c policy_check: policy allows transmission
        @40000000581ccaf61fa1ffe4 simscan:[1543]:CLEAN
        (-95.70/12.00):1.2711s:This is the subject of the email being
        
sent....:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:sen...@remotedomain.tld:recipi...@localdomain.tld
        
<mailto:sent....:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:sen...@remotedomain.tld:recipi...@localdomain.tld>
        @40000000581ccb32260f6e5c tcpserver: end 1542 status 0
        @40000000581ccb32260f762c tcpserver: status: 0/100

        </trans>

        Spamdyke may just being doing what it's supposed to do.

        Eric

        On 11/4/2016 11:53 AM, ma...@demod.pl <mailto:ma...@demod.pl>
        wrote:

            Yes, exacly This occurs only on several big corporate
            domain like dhl.com man.eu ergohestia.pl. Most mail
            recived ok. And servers works ok. Error occurs only
            several domain now I see another domain dupont.com L

            After remove spamdyke  from the ‘run’ script  i can’t
            observe TIMEOUT in log.

            I see this:

            @40000000581cbb402ac7417c CHKUSER accepted sender: from
            <pl.no.re...@dhl.com::> <mailto:pl.no.re...@dhl.com::>
            remote <gateway1g.dhl.com:unknown:165.72.200.97> rcpt <> :
            sender accepted

            @40000000581cbb451fa7b4d4 tcpserver: status: 5/100

            @40000000581cbb451faa73f4 tcpserver: pid 26568 from
            85.90.252.62

            @40000000581cbb451fabdf3c tcpserver: ok 26568
            mail.xxxxxxxx.pl:192.168.0.95:25 :85.90.252.62::29680

            @40000000581cbb4538a2023c CHKUSER accepted sender: from
            <pl.efakt...@dhl.com::> <mailto:pl.efakt...@dhl.com::>
            remote <dhl-mail-a-1.accountis.net:unknown:85.90.252.62>
            rcpt <> : sender accepted

            @40000000581cbb53234b5104 tcpserver: end 26418 status 256

            @40000000581cbb53234bd1ec tcpserver: status: 4/100

            @40000000581cbb540626f95c tcpserver: status: 5/100

            @40000000581cbb5406298d84 tcpserver: pid 26573 from
            186.85.86.180

            @40000000581cbb54062ae15c tcpserver: ok 26573
            mail.xxxxxxx.pl:192.168.0.95:25 :186.85.86.180::46388

            I don’t know where to find this mail? to whom it is addressed?

            *From:*Eric Broch [mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com]
            *Sent:* Friday, November 04, 2016 6:10 PM
            *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
            <mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com>
            *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Qmail reject email from
            several domain Reason TIMEOUT

            From your first email you stated that, "This occurs only
            on several big corporate domain like dhl.com man.eu
            ergohestia.pl"

            Obviously you are receiving at least some mail, correct?
            So, whatever the cause of this problem, spamdyke or
            otherwise, barring the corporate domains, in many cases
            your email server is working correctly, right?

            Maybe the other server ARE actually taking more time than
            they should. This is all that I was saying.

            Can you remove spamdyke from the 'run' script as I
            suggested and give that a try?

            Eric

            On 11/4/2016 11:00 AM, ma...@demod.pl
            <mailto:ma...@demod.pl> wrote:

                I know, because that emails never come. After long
                time sender get a return message sorry TIMEOUT L

                *From:*Eric Broch [mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com]
                *Sent:* Friday, November 04, 2016 5:41 PM
                *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
                <mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com>
                *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Qmail reject email from
                several domain Reason TIMEOUT

                What I meant was this: could it be that spamdyke is
                actually doing what it is supposed to do. Is spamdyke
                timing out a connection when it takes to long and
                allowing connections when the connection is within the
                time limit?

                In other words, how do you know its not working properly?

                On 11/4/2016 10:27 AM, ma...@demod.pl
                <mailto:ma...@demod.pl> wrote:

                    what are you mean?

                    *From:*Eric Broch [mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com]
                    *Sent:* Friday, November 04, 2016 5:22 PM
                    *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
                    <mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com>
                    *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Qmail reject email
                    from several domain Reason TIMEOUT

                    Could it be that the TIMEOUT is legitimate?

                    On 11/4/2016 10:17 AM, ma...@demod.pl
                    <mailto:ma...@demod.pl> wrote:

                        Sadly TIMEOUT still occurs L

                        I add timeouted domain to whitelist _senders.
                        And still TIMEOUT.

                        Bellow my spamdyke.conf file:

                        
################################################################################

                        # TIMEOUTS

                        
################################################################################

                        # Close the connection after SECS seconds,
                        regardless of activity.  A value of

                        # 0 disables this feature.

                        # Default: 0

                        connection-timeout-secs=360

                        # Close the connection after SECS seconds of
                        inactivity.  A value of 0 disables

                        # this feature.

                        # Default: 0

                        idle-timeout-secs=360

                        #dns-blacklist-entry=zombie.dnsbl.sorbs.net

                        #dns-blacklist-entry=dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net

                        #dns-blacklist-entry=bogons.cymru.com

                        dns-blacklist-entry=zen.spamhaus.org

                        dns-blacklist-entry=bl.spamcop.net

                        graylist-dir=/var/spamdyke/graylist

                        graylist-level=always

                        graylist-max-secs=2678400

                        graylist-min-secs=180

                        greeting-delay-secs=6

                        header-blacklist-entry=From:*>,*<*

                        idle-timeout-secs=60

                        ip-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_ip

                        
ip-in-rdns-keyword-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_keywords

                        
ip-in-rdns-keyword-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_keywords

                        ip-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_ip

                        ########local-domains-file=/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts

                        qmail-rcpthosts-file=/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts

                        qmail-morercpthosts-cdb

                        log-level=info

                        #log-level=excessive

                        log-target=stderr

                        max-recipients=50

                        #policy-url=http://my.policy.explanation.url/

                        rdns-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_rdns

                        rdns-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_rdns

                        
recipient-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_recipients

                        
recipient-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_recipients

                        reject-empty-rdns

                        #reject-ip-in-cc-rdns

                        #################reject-missing-sender-mx

                        reject-sender=no-mx

                        reject-unresolvable-rdns

                        rejection-text-sender-no-mx

                        reject-recipient=same-as-sender

                        rejection-text-recipient-same-as-sender

                        sender-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_senders

                        sender-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_senders

                        tls-certificate-file=/var/qmail/control/servercert.pem

                        tls-privatekey-file=/var/qmail/control/servercert.key

                        tls-level=SMTP

                        *From:*Eric Broch
                        [mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com]
                        *Sent:* Friday, November 04, 2016 4:31 PM
                        *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
                        <mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com>
                        *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Qmail reject
                        email from several domain Reason TIMEOUT

                        Settings change between spamdyke 4 and 5

                        I have a script (fixsd.sh):

                        <fixsd.sh>
                        #!/bin/sh
                        sed -i \
                        -e
                        's/reject-missing-sender-mx/reject-sender=no-mx/g'
                        \
                        -e
                        
's/rejection-text-missing-sender-mx/rejection-text-sender-no-mx/g'
                        \
                        -e
                        
's/reject-identical-sender-recipient/reject-recipient=same-as-sender/g'
                        \
                        -e
                        
's/rejection-text-identical-sender-recipient/rejection-text-recipient-same-as-sender/g'
                        \
                        -e
                        's/local-domains-file/qmail-rcpthosts-file/g' \
                        -e
                        's/local-domains-entry=/#local-domains-entry=(Add
                        these entries to qmail-rcpthosts-file)/g' \
                        -e 's/morercpthosts/qmail-morercpthosts-cdb/'g
                        /etc/spamdyke/spamdyke.conf
                        </fixsd.sh>

                        If this doesn't work, can you refert to
                        spamdyke 4 and let us know if that works?

                        Eric

                        On 11/4/2016 9:09 AM, ma...@demod.pl
                        <mailto:ma...@demod.pl> wrote:

                            I upgrade spamdyke to version 5.0.1 and
                            nothing change. L

                            I expand to:

                            'idle-timeout-sec=360'

                            And still TIMEOUT

                            *From:*Eric Broch
                            [mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com]
                            *Sent:* Friday, November 04, 2016 2:17 PM
                            *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
                            <mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com>
                            *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Qmail reject
                            email from several domain Reason TIMEOUT

                            It looks to me like it's spamdyke causing
                            the problem. It's certainly what the log
                            suggests. What is your 'idle-timeout'
                            setting in /etc/spamdyke/spamdyke.conf

                            On 11/4/2016 4:31 AM, ma...@demod.pl
                            <mailto:ma...@demod.pl> wrote:

                                Hi,

                                From some time i have a problem with
                                my qmail server. From some time the
                                server reject mail from several domain
                                REASON TIMEOUT. I don’t know why. This
                                occurs only on several big corporate
                                domain like dhl.com man.eu
                                ergohestia.pl. First i suspect
                                spamdyke. But i check it. Enter white
                                list etc. Ask on spamdyke forum and
                                final look at the spamdyke don’t block
                                anything.

                                The excessive log file show only:
                                “talk faster next time”

                                A part of log bellow:

                                @40000000581c48af3996f15c tcpserver:
                                status: 2/100

                                @40000000581c48d908f1b21c
                                spamdyke[4387]:
                                EXCESSIVE(middleman()@spamdyke.c:1965):
                                child output file descriptor 5 closed

                                @40000000581c48d908f1bdd4
                                spamdyke[4387]:
                                EXCESSIVE(output_writeln()@log.c:102):
                                wrote 37 bytes to network file
                                descriptor 1, buffer contained 37
                                bytes: 421 Timeout. Talk faster next

                                @40000000581c48d908f1c5a4
                                spamdyke[4387]: TIMEOUT from:
                                len...@lendon.pl
                                <mailto:len...@lendon.pl> to:
                                (unknown) origin_ip: 89.38.150.213
                                origin_rdns:
                                host213-150-38-89.static.arubacloud.fr
                                auth: (unknown) encryption: (none)
                                reason: TIMEOUT

                                @40000000581c48d908f21b94
                                spamdyke[4387]:
                                DEBUG(find_username()@spamdyke.c:127):
                                searching for username between
                                positions 9 and 35: RCPT
                                TO:<marekm@*****.com.pl
                                <mailto:marekm@*****.com.pl>>

                                @40000000581c48d908f22364 DATA

                                @40000000581c48d908f2274c

                                @40000000581c48d908f22b34
                                spamdyke[4387]:
                                EXCESSIVE(find_username()@spamdyke.c:309):
                                found username in address: marekm

                                @40000000581c48d908f24a74
                                spamdyke[4387]:
                                DEBUG(find_domain()@spamdyke.c:361):
                                searching for domain between positions
                                15 and 35: RCPT
                                TO:<marekm@*****.com.pl
                                <mailto:marekm@*****.com.pl>>

                                @40000000581c48d908f25244 DATA

                                @40000000581c48d908f25244

                                @40000000581c48d908f2562c
                                spamdyke[4387]:
                                EXCESSIVE(find_domain()@spamdyke.c:529):
                                found domain in address: *****.com.pl

                                @40000000581c48d908f25dfc
                                spamdyke[4387]:
                                DEBUG(find_address()@spamdyke.c:726):
                                found username: marekm

                                @40000000581c48d908f27954
                                spamdyke[4387]:
                                DEBUG(find_address()@spamdyke.c:743):
                                found domain: *****.com.pl

                                @40000000581c48d908f2b3ec
                                spamdyke[4387]:
                                
DEBUG(filter_recipient_whitelist()@filter.c:2332):
                                searching recipient whitelist(s);
                                recipient: marekm@*****.com.pl
                                <mailto:marekm@*****.com.pl>

                                @40000000581c48d908f2b7d4
                                spamdyke[4387]:
                                EXCESSIVE(output_writeln()@log.c:102):
                                wrote 37 bytes to network file
                                descriptor 1, buffer contained 37
                                bytes: 421 Timeout. Talk faster next

                                @40000000581c48d908f2bfa4
                                spamdyke[4387]: TIMEOUT from:
                                len...@lendon.pl
                                <mailto:len...@lendon.pl> to:
                                marekm@*****.com.pl
                                <mailto:marekm@*****.com.pl>
                                origin_ip: 89.38.150.213 origin_rdns:
                                host213-150-38-89.static.arubacloud.fr
                                auth: (unknown) encryption: (none)
                                reason: (empty)

                                @40000000581c48d908f2dee4
                                spamdyke[4387]:
                                EXCESSIVE(output_writeln()@log.c:102):
                                wrote 37 bytes to network file
                                descriptor 1, buffer contained 37
                                bytes: 421 Timeout. Talk faster next

                                @40000000581c48e231636ccc
                                spamdyke[4293]:
                                EXCESSIVE(middleman()@spamdyke.c:2097):
                                read 33 bytes from child input file
                                descriptor 6, buffer contains 33
                                bytes, current position is 0: 451 SPF
                                lookup failure (#4.3.0

                                @40000000581c48e231637884
                                spamdyke[4293]:
                                EXCESSIVE(middleman()@spamdyke.c:2107):
                                child input file descriptor 6
                                indicates EOF, buffer contains 0
                                bytes, current position is 0

                                @40000000581c48e231638054
                                spamdyke[4293]:
                                EXCESSIVE(middleman()@spamdyke.c:2108):
                                child input file descriptor 6 closed

                                @40000000581c48e231638824
                                spamdyke[4293]:
                                EXCESSIVE(middleman()@spamdyke.c:2989):
                                child process exited normally with
                                return value 1

                                Any help will be appreciated

                                Marek


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