Looking through the function tls_init() in the code for qmail-remote.c

I don't see much that it could be, they're almost identical between 2.2.1 and 3.3.5

Will continue looking...

On 2/18/2022 1:54 PM, Andreas Galatis wrote:
Hi Finn,


I have tested with the tlsserverciphers of my older server, completed with some of the ciphers from the new file and my mails came through.


Thanks a lot for your tip, Finn, I didn't find it in the code


Andreas


Am 18.02.22 um 16:56 schrieb Qmail:
Hi Andreas.

In qmail You're properly using /var/qmail/control/tlsclientciphers
(that are a link to tlcserverciphers)

According to what I read at the Nginx forum, the problem there is because some of the included ciphers are with underscore '_' and not hyphen '-' - I don't know if changing that in the tlsservercipher file will solve the problem.


/Finn

Den 18-02-2022 kl. 16:29 skrev Andreas:
I cannot find any file where those ciphers could be adjust.
Is that compiled in?

Me too, I have clients not beeing reachable with the new server (qmail-1.03-3.3.5), but my old server running qmail-1.03.2.2.1.qt.
Did anyone find a solution?

Andreas

Am 17.02.22 um 20:28 schrieb Qmail:
Hi.

Not sure it is related, but I just read in the Nginx forum that some have issues (failed (SSL: error:0A0000B9:SSL routines::no cipher match)) using Mozillas 'modern' 5.5 ciphers,  but everything works with Mozillas 'modern' ciphers 4.0.
(found testing the Nginx config)

The 5.5 list contains :

ssl_ciphers'TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256';

The 4.0 list contains:

ssl_ciphers'ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256';


These are matched against the openssl ciphers that are located on the server but are more or less same as the tlsclientciphers used in qmail.

Nginx can be setup as a MAIL proxy and therefore may be the reason for Your issue ??

or maybe it's just a coincidence ?

Regards,
Finn



Den 17-02-2022 kl. 08:14 skrev Andreas:
Hi list,
I have the same failure-mails with some servers, my version of qmail is
qmail-1.03-3.3.5.qt.md.el8.x86_64

TLS connect failed: error:1421C105:SSL routines:set_client_ciphersuite:wrong
cipher returnedZConnected to 83.246.65.85 but connection died.

With my old server (qmail-1.03-2.2.1.qt.el7.x86_64) I can send emails to the same recipients.
Andreas

Am 15.02.22 um 09:39 schrieb Peter Peltonen:
What I have installed is qmail-1.03-3.3.1.qt.md.el8.x86_64

Any reason to update?

Best,
Peter

On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 5:15 PM Eric Broch <ebr...@whitehorsetc.com> wrote:
What version of qmail ?

On 2/12/2022 12:56 PM, Peter Peltonen wrote:
Finally got an answer from them (see list below). I see some matching siphers on their and on my own list. Any idea how I could debug this
more so I can find out why mail is not being delivered to their
server?

best,
Peter

"
OPTON
All ciphers

DESCRIPTION
TLS encryption is only possible with ciphers that are considered as secure by the German Federal Office for Information Security. A TLS
connection is only established if the email server of the
communication partner supports one of the following ciphers:

• ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
• ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384
• ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA
• DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
• DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256
• DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA
• AES256-GCM-SHA384
• AES256-SHA256
• AES256-SHA
• ECDHE-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA
• EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA
• DES-CBC3-SHA

OPTION
Secure ciphers

DESCRIPTION
Secure ciphers TLS encryption is only possible with ciphers that are
considered as secure by the German Federal Office for Information
Security. A TLS connection is only established if the email
server of the communication partner supports one of the following ciphers:

• ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
• ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384
• DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
• DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256
• ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256
• ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256
• DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256
• DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256
"


On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 4:08 PM Eric Broch <ebr...@whitehorsetc.com> wrote:
Is there a way to contact them and find out what obscure B.S. they want?

On 2/7/2022 12:26 AM, Peter Peltonen wrote:
When trying to deliver email to a domain that is using spam protection
from antispameurope.com I get the following error:

deferral: TLS_connect_failed:_error:1421C105:SSL_routines:set_client_ciphersuite:wrong_cipher_returnedZConnected_to_83.246.65.85_but_connection_died._(#4.4.2)/

So am I missing something here:

[root@mail ~]# cat /var/qmail/control/tlsclientciphers
TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256:TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLS_AES_128_CCM_SHA256:DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA:DHE-DSS-SEED-SHA:ADH-SEED-SHA:SEED-SHA:IDEA-CBC-SHA:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:DHE-DSS-AES256-GCM-SHA384:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:DHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-CCM8:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-CCM:DHE-RSA-AES256-CCM8:DHE-RSA-AES256-CCM:ECDHE-ECDSA-ARIA256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-ARIA256-GCM-SHA384:DHE-DSS-ARIA256-GCM-SHA384:DHE-RSA-ARIA256-GCM-SHA384:ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-DSS-AES128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-CCM8:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-CCM:DHE-RSA-AES128-CCM8:DHE-RSA-AES128-CCM:ECDHE-ECDSA-ARIA128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-ARIA128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-DSS-ARIA128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-RSA-ARIA128-GCM-SHA256:ADH-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256:DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA256:ECDHE-ECDSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA384:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA256:DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA256:ADH-AES256-SHA256:ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA256:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256:DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA256:ECDHE-ECDSA-CAMELLIA128-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-CAMELLIA128-SHA256:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA128-SHA256:DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA128-SHA256:ADH-AES128-SHA256:ADH-CAMELLIA128-SHA256:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA:DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA:AECDH-AES256-SHA:ADH-AES256-SHA:ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA128-SHA:DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA128-SHA:AECDH-AES128-SHA:ADH-AES128-SHA:ADH-CAMELLIA128-SHA:RSA-PSK-AES256-GCM-SHA384:DHE-PSK-AES256-GCM-SHA384:RSA-PSK-CHACHA20-POLY1305:DHE-PSK-CHACHA20-POLY1305:ECDHE-PSK-CHACHA20-POLY1305:DHE-PSK-AES256-CCM8:DHE-PSK-AES256-CCM:RSA-PSK-ARIA256-GCM-SHA384:DHE-PSK-ARIA256-GCM-SHA384:AES256-GCM-SHA384:AES256-CCM8:AES256-CCM:ARIA256-GCM-SHA384:PSK-AES256-GCM-SHA384:PSK-CHACHA20-POLY1305:PSK-AES256-CCM8:PSK-AES256-CCM:PSK-ARIA256-GCM-SHA384:RSA-PSK-AES128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-PSK-AES128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-PSK-AES128-CCM8:DHE-PSK-AES128-CCM:RSA-PSK-ARIA128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-PSK-ARIA128-GCM-SHA256:AES128-GCM-SHA256:AES128-CCM8:AES128-CCM:ARIA128-GCM-SHA256:PSK-AES128-GCM-SHA256:PSK-AES128-CCM8:PSK-AES128-CCM:PSK-ARIA128-GCM-SHA256:AES256-SHA256:CAMELLIA256-SHA256:AES128-SHA256:CAMELLIA128-SHA256:ECDHE-PSK-AES256-CBC-SHA384:ECDHE-PSK-AES256-CBC-SHA:SRP-DSS-AES-256-CBC-SHA:SRP-RSA-AES-256-CBC-SHA:SRP-AES-256-CBC-SHA:RSA-PSK-AES256-CBC-SHA384:DHE-PSK-AES256-CBC-SHA384:RSA-PSK-AES256-CBC-SHA:DHE-PSK-AES256-CBC-SHA:ECDHE-PSK-CAMELLIA256-SHA384:RSA-PSK-CAMELLIA256-SHA384:DHE-PSK-CAMELLIA256-SHA384:AES256-SHA:CAMELLIA256-SHA:PSK-AES256-CBC-SHA384:PSK-AES256-CBC-SHA:PSK-CAMELLIA256-SHA384:ECDHE-PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA256:ECDHE-PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA:SRP-DSS-AES-128-CBC-SHA:SRP-RSA-AES-128-CBC-SHA:SRP-AES-128-CBC-SHA:RSA-PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA256:DHE-PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA256:RSA-PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA:DHE-PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA:ECDHE-PSK-CAMELLIA128-SHA256:RSA-PSK-CAMELLIA128-SHA256:DHE-PSK-CAMELLIA128-SHA256:AES128-SHA:CAMELLIA128-SHA:PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA256:PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA:PSK-CAMELLIA128-SHA256

?

Best,
Peter

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