Alessandro Sala schrieb:
> Hi Sebastian,
>>>
>>> There is critical point, however: if/when Internet Explorer will 
>>> fully support XHTML documents, if the load order bug will still be 
>>> there even with the XHTML DOM, then we will probably be forced to 
>>> modify the way applications are initialized (o we will need to switch 
>>> to preprocessing the header file): and if this has to be done, the 
>>> sooner is better.
>>>
>>> It would be very interesting if someone who is already using IE7 
>>> could try my test page, particularly the DOM-pre and  DOM-post links, 
>>> and see if the load order bug has been fixed. If it is, then we can 
>>> definitely stick to document.write() for IE6 without further concerns.
>>>
>>> Do you agree?
>>
>> Mhh, just one question. Is it possible to use only one script element? 
>> e.g. switch the source after each load? That would be interesting to 
>> make it perform a little better.
>>
> Sorry no, it isn't! I've updated my test page with this technique 
> (DOM-post-single-elem). In Firefox only the first script gets loaded and 
> parsed. In Opera the first script gets loaded multiple times. In IE6 
> only the last script gets loaded. And even if it worked, I believe 
> classes would again lose their relationship with the original source 
> files, since the single script element would only point to the last 
> source loaded.

OK, seems logical. Thank you for your explanation.


> 
>> In general I think it is completely OK to use document.write in 
>> Internet Explorer as long as the browser supports this. Maybe after 
>> some years it really supports XHTML. It is also OK to switch 
>> afterwards I think. So I would say:
>>
>> 1. document.createElement & appendChild => Gecko, Opera, Safari, etc.
>> 2. document.write => IE
>>
>> I have my problems to understand why document.write(manyscriptags) 
>> work, but document.getElementsById("head")[0].innerHTML += 
>> manyscripttags not. Are you sure you also has the problems regarding 
>> code evaluation in this case?
>>
> Yes, I am: here the three majors agree: FireFox, Opera and IE6 all 
> ignore <script> tags added by innerHTML to head or body while loading 
> the document; that is, they create the corresponding DOM nodes, but they 
> seem not to parse the related javascript: you can try it yourself by 
> clicking on the innerHTML link on my test page.
> 
> This puzzles me too. IMHO this behavior is due to the fact that 
> document.write() always appends new code *after* the current parsing 
> point (I guess it could push text into the buffer used while reading the 
> document), so newly added script tags get handled only when control 
> comes back from the javascript interpreter to the HTML parser which can 
> easily handle them by calling the javascript interpreted again, as if 
> they were in the original document source from the beginning. On the 
> contrary, innerHTML acts on the DOM node, out of the parsing stream: new 
> code assigned to innerHTML needs to be parsed and script tags have to be 
> handed to the javascript interpreter while it is still running the code 
> which is acting on the innerHTML attribute, so the interpreter should be 
> somewhat reentrant, and probably it isn't. It's just an hypothesis, though.

Again thank you. Wow, yes this makes sense. How nice would be something 
like a include command e.g. include(path/to/script.js) to have a good 
replacement for document.write in this case. Maybe even something we 
could suggest to the WHATWG.

> 
>> There are also plans to improve the demo section even more. Maybe we 
>> find another solution in some month, but for now this is completely OK.
>>
> Ok, thank you. In the next few days I will be cleaning up the code, and 
> I hope to commit all changes by the end of the week.

Would be nice to have it then.

Maybe there will be a new release next week.

Sebastan


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> 
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