> Chris,
>
> Thanks for making the effort. We appreciate all input which is at least 
> "50% in the right direction" (to quote R. Gabriel). I thought you would 
> be more platform savvy, but that's fair enough, others can always take a 
> second look and build upon what you've written. So no side blow intended 
> on my side :).
>   

None taken :-) . I'm sure I'll be able to contribute properly at some 
point, once I've grokked the qooxdoo tool chain a bit (lot) better.

> But I also just wanted to raise the level of awareness towards general 
> solutions. And in the face of open issues, it is sometimes better just 
> to mention them (like "Be careful when installing into a path with 
> spaces...").
>   

That's fine -- a short note giving a "heads up" to those who would like 
to try qooxdoo, but might not have had to deal with all of its 
requirements would do the trick.

> As for fool-proof systems, unfortunately, it is impossible to build 
> them, neither in code nor in documentation. Once you try it, you're 
> entering the infinite loop. You have to make some assumptions about user 
> knowledge, and draw some lines as to what to document and what not, even 
> on entry level. Otherwise you wind up explaining desktops, mouse 
> pointers and ASCII codes ... ;)
>   
Well I hope I'm not quite *that* thick ;-)

In my opinion though, you should make the initial "getting started" docs 
(and this doesn't have to be more than 2-3 of them) quite robust -- even 
if that means just some notes in them to point out potential pitfalls. I 
think that there's a good chance that qooxdoo will become quite 
mainstream, and there's a rather big pool of potential developers out 
there who fall into my category (non-linux, command line). Some of these 
people might be very talented, and it would be a shame to lose them to 
other javascript libs that are much easier to get started with than qooxdoo.

This is all meant to fall squarely into the *positive feedback* category 
-- I think what you guys have done is absolutely amazing and that 
qooxdoo is by far the most promising of all the js directions out there. 
:-)

Cheers,
-Chris












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