On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, panyasan wrote:
- a more polished website - important for PR purposes (we're competing with
http://www.dojotoolkit.org/, for example)
I don't really see the dojo Website as being much "better" than the
Qooxdoo-site. They look different, but that's seems to me to be a matter of
taste, mostly.
The most important feature of a useful website (in my opinion) is ease of
navigation and that in my experience mainly means that
- I have an always visible navigation area (because I usually don't go
through the "Entry page" but arrive at a website on some page Google found
most relevant)
- the structure is consistent and doesn't lead to surprises
- the structure is hierarchical with a limited number of branches (for my
limited mind)
Sometimes it might be useful to make different areas visibly distinguishable
from eachother, almost as if they where two different sites. Just so that
it's easy for me to see/remember where I am.
I am not a big fan of a navigation bar at the top and all sub-navigation
somewhere else (or not visible at all). The bread crumb path helps a little,
but only to go back and not to go forward. I know that this is a field for
"religious" discussions, I just haven't seen an implementation on any larger
site that I find really helpful. It's like a book with table of contents
distributed all over the place (not many of these exist and usually there is
more than just one level of hierarchy visible in the "main table of
contents" at the beginning/end of the book. I don't know why this rather
useful concept is suddenly overthrown on electronic media (just because you
can also search, doesn't invalidate a proofen concept). Anyway ...
On the Qooxdoo website my main difficulty is to find the right kind of
documentation, mainly because there is so much of it. Right now I was trying
t find the snippets area. Finally I found it via the search function and
then realized that it is "hidden" on page
» Home » Documentation » Manual x.x
rather far down on a long page below "Other". I think such a long page with
links to other pages makes it difficult to find relevant information (I at
least knew already that "Snippets" exists).
I am not quite sure how to solve this problem (other than the actually quite
useful search engine, but that only helps if you know what you are looking
for, which might not be the case for new comers).
- a book-like manual (see the discussion on the ML)
That would most likely be useful, but is probably A LOT of work ... I am not
sure about the cost/benefit ratio. Especially because it would also need
a fair amount of "maintenance", as Qooxdoo is (fortunately) a pretty lively
beast ...
- an integrated "API Viewer/Demo Browser" for contributions
Yes, that would be most helpful. As would be an as small as possible contrib
area (meaning "good" contributions should be promoted to the main line as
quickly as possible) and a contrib area structured (or filterable) by
"working with Qooxdoo version x".
Other than that, I am really happy with the toolkit, support by the devs
and the community.
Yes, yes, yes!
Cheers,
Fritz
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