Hello,
I am using version 2.2. It is strange I can see H2O-SelfContCKDMT252 and H2O-ForeignContCKDMT252 in the doxygen continua.cc source file, but it does not work when I try and include it in my code. CKDMT250 doesn’t work also. I have CKDMT100 though so I can use this. Should I use the self and the foreign versions together? Thanks Emma From: Jana Mendrok [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 19 January 2015 16:37 To: Turner, Emma C. Cc: Stefan Buehler; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Qpack] Continuum Models in ARTS hi emma, which arts version are you using? arts-2.2 has ckdmt250 listed. that's the one stefan was talking about (obviously i didn't fix the wrong version number yet. will do in the next days, renaming them to ckdmt252. but so far you find them as ckdmt250). if it's not in your arts-2.2 distribution, please update your arts. we fixed a number of bugs during the last year... best wishes, Jana On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Turner, Emma C. <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Stefan, Sorry I don't think I cc'd the mailing list last time. Looking through continua.cc I can't seem to find anything for CKDMT252, do you mean CKDMT24 instead? The options for continua given in the documentation are listed at the bottom of this message, however some of them, aren't in the continua.cc file, so I get an error. I have a separate question regarding the self and foreign continua, would you advise using both in a radiance calculation to include both types of continua behaviour, such as in the code snippet below? Q.ABS_SPECIES(2).TAG{1} = 'H2O' Q.ABS_SPECIES(2).TAG{2} = H2O_SelfContCKD24; Q.ABS_SPECIES(2).TAG{3} = H2O_ForeignContCKD24; Thanks very much, Emma H2O-SelfContStandardType H2O-ForeignContStandardType H2O-ForeignContMaTippingType H2O-ContMPM93 H2O-SelfContCKDMT100 H2O-ForeignContCKDMT100 H2O-SelfContCKD222 H2O-ForeignContCKD222 H2O-SelfContCKD242 H2O-ForeignContCKD242 H2O-SelfContCKD24 H2O-ForeignContCKD24 H2O-ForeignContATM01 -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Buehler [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: 19 January 2015 09:30 To: Turner, Emma C. Cc: Jana Mendrok Subject: Re: [Qpack] Continuum Models in ARTS Dear Emma, sorry for the slow reply, I’m very overloaded. Writing to the mailing list will usually be faster. Just look in file continua.cc after all tagnames that contain CKDMT252. They should work out of the box, otherwise please let us know. Best regards, Stefan > On 13.01.2015, at 13:33, Turner, Emma C. > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Dear Stefan, > > Agree with what you say about continua, only wish they didn't have such a big > effect! Thankyou for the recommendation, do you know the tag name for those > models or is there some separate code I need to include? > > Kind regards > Emma > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stefan Buehler > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] > Sent: 13 January 2015 09:51 > To: Turner, Emma C. > Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Qpack] Continuum Models in ARTS > > Dear Emma, > > yes, there are differences between continuum models, and this reflects a real > scientific uncertainty. Measurements of the continuum are not trivial, and we > do not know which model is right. > > For the broad frequency range that you want to simulate on, I would recommend > the CKDMT252 continuum models (there are different ones for different gases). > They are “state of the art” in the sense that they are quite new and widely > used. > > Best regards, > > Stefan > >> On 12.01.2015, at 17:53, Turner, Emma C. >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Dear Stefan, >> >> I am wanting to use the forward model in q_arts to simulate the radiance >> profile seen from the ground looking straight up, from 10-2000 GHz >> (submillimetre range). How should I decide which one to use? I read the >> documentation but it doesn't make recommendations. The reason I was >> interested in the ATM model was because the submillimetre SMILES instrument >> on the ISS used a continua model based on this. >> >> What is the controlfile code I need to use? I have been testing including >> the different models that are in the continua.arts file and there are >> differences between the radiances obtained. >> >> Thanks >> Emma >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stefan Buehler >> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] >> Sent: 12 January 2015 15:27 >> To: Turner, Emma C. >> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Qpack] Continuum Models in ARTS >> >> Dear Emma, >> >> you need a bit of controlfile code to actually use the continua. The ones >> that are commonly used are all defined in file continua.arts that is part of >> the ARTS distribution (H2O-SelfContCKD24 is there for example). But not all >> are listed there, so to use the Pardo continuum you would have to add a >> similar snippet of controlcode yourself (we can help with that if >> necessary). I’m not aware of anybody ever using that particular model since >> Thomas implemented it, so it is far from well validated. >> >> In general, you should not use these models blindly, some are much more >> well-tested than others. And not all combinations of continuum and line >> spectrum make sense! >> >> What is it that you want to do? >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Stefan >> >>> On 12.01.2015, at 15:18, Turner, Emma C. >>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I think this is an ARTS question more than qpack but I have been looking at >>> the range of pure continuum models available, listed in table 6.3 in >>> chapter 2 of the ARTS theory documentation and it seems that some of them >>> aren't recognised when I specify them. The error is, for example, 'Cannot >>> find model H2O-SelfContCKD242 in abs_cont_names.' >>> >>> Of the H2O continua these are a lot of the foreign continua - >>> H2O-ForeignContCKDMT100, H2O-ForeignContCKD222, H2O-ForeignContCKD242, >>> H2O-ForeignContCKD24, H2O-ForeignContATM01 and also H2O-SelfContCKD242 and >>> H2O-SelfContCKD222. I particularly wanted H2O-ForeignContATM01. This is the >>> same with some of the O2 and N2 models, I can only get 5 of the O2 models >>> and 2 of the N2 models to work. Can you help? >>> >>> Thankyou >>> Emma >>> >>> This message (and any attachments) is for the recipient only. NERC is >>> subject to the Freedom of Information Act 2000 and the contents of this >>> email and any reply you make may be disclosed by NERC unless it is exempt >>> from release under the Act. 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