Dear Patrick,

I am not sure to understand very well but I am running ARTS with the atmlab 
package and I am wondering if your changes might affect my simulations. 

In my controle file I declare Q.BLACKBODY_RADIATION_AGENDA = { 
'blackbody_radiation_agenda__Planck'  };

and then I define Q.IY_UNIT='PlanckBT' to output brightness temperatures 
instead of radiances.

Are your modifications in line with these structures ? If yes, does it mean 
that the output
from the radiative transfer will be radiances and we will have to convert these 
radiances into brightness temperatures ?

Thank you.

Best regards,

Pauline

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De: "Patrick Eriksson" <[email protected]>
À: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
Envoyé: Vendredi 11 Décembre 2015 15:37:43
Objet: [Qpack] Goodbye to blackbody_radiation_agenda?

Hi all,

Is anyone changing blackbody_radiation_agenda from its default?


In line with ARTS philosophy of modularity, I once introduced 
blackbody_radiation_agenda. The default setting for this agenda is the 
Planck function, defined with respect to frequency. You can also define 
the Planck function with respect to wavelength. Or apply the 
Rayleigh-Jeans approximation and set blackbody_radiation to the 
temperature. The question is if anyone is using these latter options? 
And if yes, would it be critical to remove the agenda and hard-code what 
is now the default? It would still be possible to convert final 
radiances to other units, including wavelength-based ones.


This issue has already created problems around DOIT. It makes the 
conversion to other units less secure. Richard assumes in the non-LTE 
part that the default is valid. Richard is now extending the scope of 
the analytical calculation of Jacobians, and this would be much easier 
with a hard-coded solution. It could be motivated to add methods to 
mimic details of the calibration process, but this would be complicated 
with arbitrary source function.

In addition, is it possible to simple change the source function without 
adopting other things? For example, is the line shape function dependent 
on the source function used? I am here mainly thinking about the (v/v0) 
pre-factor. Could the different (linear or quadratic in v/v0) here be 
associated with this issue? Some other theoretical consideration here?

In summary, Richard and I want to remove the agenda, both for practical 
and theoretical reasons. But we don't want to cause problems for 
someone. If I don't hear anything I maybe start doing changes already 
Tuesday afternoon.

Bye,

Patrick

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