Dear Patrick and Ole Martin,
I am writing again from this old mail because I have a problem in Qpack2
that I think that it is related with the setting that Ole Martin proposed
in the previous mail, but I am not sure.
To explain it I want to share the experiment that I did:

1. I set Y.Z_PLATFORM=12Km. My O3 a-priori profile goes  from ground to
90km (I will call it 'APRIORI') [So, then of the 3. step I will have a
simulated spectrum from the a priori (SPECTRUM_AP)]

2. I make a synthetic profile (taking it as O3 in the atmosphere or true
state vector) which is same as the a priori profile, but I add a delta O3
(0.5ppm) at 7km (PROFILE_7km). So, I arrange a syntetic "true state" that I
know. Then I calculate a spectrum (SPECTRUM_7km) from PROFILE_7km using
QPack2/ARTS. I took this spectrum as the measurement.

3. I run Qpack2/ARTS inserting SPECTRUM_7km as measurement, and APRIORI as
a priori profile and stop in the first iteration.

(Note that I am setting Y.Z_PLATFORM=12km, and I the add a delta O3 the
ozone in the true state vector at 7km. )

The result was that SPECTRUM_AP (yf) is a little bit diferent to
SPECTRUM_7km (y). I think that it must be equal ( SPECTRUM_AP = SPECTRUM_7km)
because the Y.Z_PLATFORM is above to 7km and a perturbation at 7km should
not affect the retrieval. Is it correct?

the Q is: Why changes below Y.Z_PLATFORM in the true state vector
affect the retrieval?

Thanks in advance.
Best regards
Facundo







2014-11-18 21:58 GMT+09:00 Ole Martin Christensen <
[email protected]>:

> Hi,
>
> the standard way of doing this is to do it before you do the retrieval.
> You manually adjust your measured spectra assuming that your measured
> opacity is correct (called "tropospheric correction").
>
> In arts you can then model your instrument as being above the troposphere,
> i.e. by setting the altitude of your sensor (Y.Z_PLATFORM if you use
> qpack2) to 15 km. The simulated spectra can then be compared to your
> corrected spectra for a successful retrieval.
>
> Another option is using continuum models to model O2, H2O(gas and/or
> liquid) across the tropopause. These can be added by adding by writing e.g.:
>
> Q.ABS_SPECIES(2).TAG      = { 'H2O-PWR98' };
>
> With a following fields like Q.ABS_SPECIES(2).ATMDATA, and
> Q.ABS_SPECIES(2).GRIDS.
>
> However, in general the manual tropospheric correction is the most
> commonly used method, as it is simpler, and would recommend starting with
> this.
>
> If anything is unclear please feel free to send more questions. For
> further inquiries I would also strongly recommend the qpack and arts
> mailinglists.
>
> https://www.sat.ltu.se/mailman/listinfo/qpack
> https://www.sat.ltu.se/mailman/listinfo/arts-users
>
> Regards
>
> Ole Martin
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Facundo Orte [[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:44 PM
> *To:* Patrick Eriksson
> *Cc:* Ole Martin Christensen
> *Subject:* Re: Question about ARTS
>
> Dear Patrick Eriksson,
> thanks for your reply.
> The MWR is installed in Río Gallegos city (Latitud: -51° 36' 02,03",Longitud:
> -69° 19' 09.96") since 2011. The name of the observatory is "Observatorio
> Atmosferico de la Patagonia Austral" which depends to Lidar Division
> (CEILAP). You can see the site in this link
> http://www.division-lidar.com.ar/sitios_rg.html. It is quite near to
> Ushuaia.
> The MWR is working at 110.83GHz. For calculate the opacity from the MWR we
> can use, for example, the method described by Zafra et al. (Zafra, R. L.,
> Parrish, A., Solomon, P. M and Barrett, J. W., A Quasi-continuous record of
> atmospheric opacity at λ=1.1 mm over 34 days at Mauna Kea  Observatory,
> International Journal of infrared and Millimeter Waves, Vol. 4, No 5,
> 1983.). Comparisons between the opacity measured and obtained from
> radiosonde profiles presents good agreement.
> If I may to introduce the measured opacity (by MWR) as input of ARTS maybe
> it could be good. My question is: where can I input the measured opacity
> in ARTS?
> Thanks a lot
> Best Regards
> Facundo
>
>
> 2014-11-17 15:53 GMT-03:00 Patrick Eriksson <[email protected]>
> :
>
>> Dear Facundo Orte,
>>
>> Nice to hear that you have started to use Qpack.
>>
>> Getting curious, where exactly is the radiometer placed? Did some
>> travelling around Latin America in the 90-ies. Passed e.g. Uschaia. What
>> frequency is the radiometer using?
>>
>> Don't understand your question exactly. How do you observe an opacity
>> with the radiometer? I don't know how that could be done. Measured
>> brightness temperatures can be converted to an opacity, but then it is
>> better to use the original Tb-data. Or is the opacity determined by some
>> other instrument. If you describe this closer, we will try to help you.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-11-17 19:05, Facundo Orte wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Patrick Eriksson,
>>> My name is Facundo Orte and I am a PhD student of the Lidar Division of
>>> CEILAP (Laser Research Center) from Argentina (division-lidar.com.ar
>>> <http://division-lidar.com.ar>).
>>> I am writing you because in our laboratory there is a Millimiter Wave
>>> Radiometer (MWR) instaled in South Patagonia, near to the spring ozone
>>> hole, and we retrieve ozone profiles with it. To analyze the signal we
>>> are trying to use the ARTS model that you and your team developed. I am
>>> using MATLAB to introduce inputs changing Q.DEFINITION.m function and I
>>> retrieve some profiles but there are quite close to "a priori" ozone
>>> profile (I am using MLS climatology as a priori O3 profile). I think
>>> that it is because I do not have well caracterized the atmosphere and I
>>> am trying to do that. For example, at this moment, I do not know how to
>>> introduce the opacity measured for the MWR instrument from MATLAB as
>>> input and I think that it is an important parameter to introduce.
>>> Could you help me with it? Do you know how I can to introduce the
>>> opacity from MATLAB?
>>> I will very appreciate if you can help me with it.
>>> Thank you in advance
>>> Best regards
>>> Facundo Orte
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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