FWIW, Confluence is as good as a WIKI gets IMO.

You can then buy themes to make the website look good and not so
wiki-like...

http://www.adaptavist.com/display/ADAPTAVIST/Builder

Colin.
http://hermesjms.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johnson, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 20 September 2006 16:59
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Qpid project Web Site
> 
> The exact opposite argument was put forth in the CeltiXfire 
> discussion.
> I was pushing for using HTML or some form of XML and the 
> developers said they felt more comfortable using a wiki to 
> contribute documentation.
> 
> I took a look at the Tuscany and Maven sites that Carl likes 
> and it looks like they are built using the Maven site 
> plug-in. Tuscany does a better job with the skinning from my 
> perspective. I just used HTML to get the simple 
> CeltiXfire(http://incubator.apache.org/cxf/) stuff up I just 
> used plain old HTML. It was the fastest approach at my disposal.
> 
> I can send out a zip with some basic stuff this afternoon and 
> we can see if we like the basic structure. Then we can decide 
> the best way to build the stuff going forward.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rajith Attapattu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 10:42 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Qpid project Web Site
> > 
> > Eric,
> > 
> > I have no particular preference, but my worry about cwiki is that
> people
> > might have to learn it before they contribute with documentation.
> > As with the maven site building stuff people can write simple html
> which
> > gets converted to xdocs using some maven pluggin which seems more
> easy.
> > 
> > Either way I can help you out on the efforts. Lets agree on a site
> layout
> > and we can start sharing the workload.
> > We might also have to start getting the others involved for 
> atleast a 
> > basic user guide and architecture guide.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Rajith
> > 
> > On 9/20/06, Johnson, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > The CeltiXfire project is also looking at using cwiki for its main
> site
> > > and its documentation. I'm still not convinced about it being a
> great
> > > idea, but the Wiki does make editing easy. There is no messing
> around
> > > with HTML or XML files.
> > > It is a regular Confluence wiki and does have the ability to do
> static
> > > export of the content. To get the stuff to look really good though
> you
> > > need to create export themes using Confluence's theme engine which
> uses
> > > Velocity. Without the theme it looks pretty terrible.
> > > What Geronimo did, and CeltiXfire is going to emulate, is create
> several
> > > spaces on cwiki for the project. One space is the where the main
> site is
> > > created and has pretty restricted access. The other spaces have 
> > > different access privileges and are used for documentation and
> developer
> > > spaces. This provides some flexibility around access control and
> look
> > > and feel.
> > > I've done a little poking around with the theme stuff and it does
> not
> > > look too hard. I haven't actually gotten around to creating and
> testing
> > > one though.
> > > Another option is to use the Maven site building stuff. 
> It is also 
> > > pretty powerful and can be skinned.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 3:41 AM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: Qpid project Web Site
> > > >
> > > > On the MINA list, the project lead is asking for opinions on
> moving
> > > all
> > > > their stuff to cwiki, which seems to be a 
> Confluence-based hosting
> (I
> > > am
> > > > not exactly sure how it differs from plain Confluence?). He
> indicated
> > > it
> > > > had a static site capability.
> > > >
> > > > He linked to this example site, which is used by Geronimo:
> > > >
> > > > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSITE/index.html
> > > >
> > > > RG
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > |---------+---------------------------->
> > > > |         |           Carl Trieloff    |
> > > > |         |           <[EMAIL PROTECTED]|
> > > > |         |           t.com>           |
> > > > |         |                            |
> > > > |         |           20/09/2006 01:22 |
> > > > |         |           Please respond to|
> > > > |         |           qpid-dev         |
> > > > |---------+---------------------------->
> > > >
> > >
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> > > >   |
> > > > |
> > > >   |       To:       [email protected]
> > > > |
> > > >   |       cc:
> > > > |
> > > >   |       Subject:  Re: Qpid project Web Site
> > > > |
> > > >
> > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Eric,
> > > >
> > > > It would be great if you take the first pass. I do 
> however prefer
> the
> > > > layout of
> > > > Maven and Tuscany for example over most of the others. 
> It would be
> > > great
> > > > if
> > > > you could model it more of one of those two.
> > > >
> > > > Carl.
> > > >
> > > > Johnson, Eric wrote:
> > > > > Does anyone have interest in picking this up? If not 
> I'll make a
> > > first
> > > > > pass at it. I did the first pass at the CeltiXfire site. It is
> > > pretty
> > > > > basic, but it is a start.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: Rajith Attapattu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 12:36 PM
> > > > >> To: [email protected]
> > > > >> Subject: Re: Qpid project Web Site
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi All,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Before we do a release it's good if we can get our 
> web site up
> and
> > > > >> running.
> > > > >> The website will provide us with a platform to get our
> > > documentation
> > > > >>
> > > > > up
> > > > >
> > > > >> and
> > > > >> running as well.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The following link describes the layout and the procedure.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 
> <http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html>
> > > > >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > > > >>
> > > > >> comments/suggestions/ideas most welcomed.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rajith
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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