I abstain from the vote.

I know for a fact that MoinMoin can do everything Confluence can do, including the GUI editor and website exporting and PDF conversion. It can do pretty much anything you want, in fact, given how easy it is to extend it and all the macros and plugins available for it. However, and unfortunately, Apache chooses to run MoinMoin 1.3.4 for whatever reason, whereas the current version is 1.5.5. I therefore find it difficult to endorse something that Apache doesn't seem to want to fully support. (Granted, I may be misjudging here, but I'm only stating what I see. Also, I'd be happy to pitch in and get them to 1.5.5 if they'd like my help.)

I can't endorse Confluence, either, because it's a commercial product, and I don't think an open source project should be directly using a commercial product for such a critical element. As I said before, I'm surprised Apache even allows it, as IMO it shows favoritism to a particular commercial vendor. Would we be allowed to use the SocialText wiki instead, which is also available both commercially and as open source? I bet not.

--steve

On Sep 26, 2006, at 8:28 PM, John O'Hara wrote:

People are voting for that they know here - shock!

Logic:
MoinMoin is nice.
Confluence is a lot like MoinMoin.
We're using JIRA and Confluence and JIRA go well together (both from
Atlassian).
Maintaining static web pages is v. silly -- Apache are using Forrest and
Confluence exports; its proven.
The Confluence GUI editor beats MoinMoin hands down - its actually pleasant
to use.  And there's wiki markup too.

Seems to me, that personal preferences for one or the other aside, using
Confluence has more going for it.

Therefore I vote: + 1 Confluence for both.

John

On 26/09/06, Alan Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

+1 for moinmoin as developer wiki

abstain for static website and doc, I don't know enough about it with
either wiki.

On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 08:57 -0400, Rajith Attapattu wrote:
> +1 for Continue to use MoinMoin as a wiki and use xml/html for static
> website
>
> Can you export documentation in confluence in html/pdf format.
> I would assume that when we ship a release we want to send some
> documentation along.
> If we use xml/html for static website we could send the documentation
part
> of it along with the build.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rajith
>
> On 9/26/06, Marnie McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > +1 Confluence for both
> >
> > [+1 ] Use Confluence both for wiki and static website. This will
retire
> > MoinMoin from our project.
> > [ ] Continue to use MoinMoin as a wiki and use xml/html for static
website
> > [ ] Use MoinMoin for the wiki and introduce Confluence but only for
the
> > static site
> >
> > Regards,
> > Marnie
> >
> >
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