Very helpful, thanks.

And yes, agreed on the criticality of the current discussions.  No time for 
complacency.

Marg

Margaret Lloyd, Ph.D
Associate Professor
Faculty of Education
Phone +61 7 313 83758
CRICOS No. 00213J


On 13/07/2011, at 20:12, "paul" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

The CAS website is here - <http://www.computingatschool.org.uk/> 
http://www.computingatschool.org.uk/. Whilst I'm not familiar with the politics 
of education in the UK, and therefore what drives their curriculum, the CAS 
mailing list I subscribed to features a lot of discussion about Greenfoot, 
Scratch, Alice, Java, Small Basic, Star Logo, RoboMind and others.

<http://www.computingatschool.org.uk/index.php?id=computing-is-a-discipline>http://www.computingatschool.org.uk/index.php?id=computing-is-a-discipline
 is a great article from their site that anecdotally supports my observation.

With the technological change ever present on the horizon - I'd humbly suggest 
it's not just a timely conversation, but a critical one.

Paul

From: Margaret Lloyd<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:17 PM
To: QSITE ICT Teachers<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [qsiteict] A list of relevant skills

Hi everyone
I think this is a timely conversation. Later this year, we are going to have 
the opportunity to comment on the Shape of the Australian Curriculum: 
Technologies paper due out late 2011. We are on the drawing board but, as we 
have seen in Queensland, are in the same space as 'Design and Technology'... 
not necessarily a bad predicament, but a tricky one.

I am particularly interested in the reference Paul made to computer studies in 
the UK, "Our comrades in CAS (Computers at School - a UK group) are heavily 
focusing  once again on programming."

Could you please point me to a source for this?

Oh, and not only is the shaping paper not yet written, the committee to do so 
hasn't been appointed! The conversation about ICT as a general capability is 
open for discussion on the ACARA site if you are interested in having your say 
on this. Open to early August.

Cheers
Marg Lloyd

Margaret Lloyd, Ph.D
Associate Professor, Faculty of Education
Phone: +61 7 313 83758
Fax:   +61 7 313 83985
<http://eprints.qut.edu.au/view/person/Lloyd,_Margaret.html>http://eprints.qut.edu.au/view/person/Lloyd,_Margaret.html

CRICOS No. 00213J





On 13/07/2011, at 8:30 AM, Rex Boggs wrote:

Maybe the phrase “rich, engaging AND relevant” should be changed to “rich, 
engaging OR relevant”.

For example, one skill that is absolutely critical for anyone using a computer 
is backing up data.
Now this skill usually isn’t considered rich or engaging, but it is certainly 
relevant.  And almost
no students (or teachers, for that matter) do it as it should be done.

Maybe even ICT teachers.

Here is a one-question quiz.  If your house caught fire at 3am tonight, and you 
had to rush out of
the house with no time to take anything with you, and your house was completely 
destroyed, what data
would you lose?

The correct answer is:  none.    A correct answer is worth 10 marks.  What 
score would you give
yourself?

Cheers

Rex




From: paul
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:20 PM
To: <mailto:[email protected]> 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [qsite-ipt_qsite_edu_au] A list of relevant

Hi

after seeing this video again
(<http://www.microsoft.com/showcase/en/us/details/e7728af1-3fe4-4e25-a907-3dbf689fe11a>http://www.microsoft.com/showcase/en/us/details/e7728af1-3fe4-4e25-a907-3dbf689fe11a),
 it caused me
to reflect on a question that often runs through my mind - "What are the 
relevant skills we should
be teaching our students for tomorrow?"
I'm not talking about about skills like critical thinking or collaboration, but 
hardware/software
skills that they'll need to survive into the future. And that will still be 
relevant to them?

I talked to my students about "burning a CD" recently. Specifically, I was 
talking about burning an
ISO, and they looked at me like I had 2 heads. No-one could tell me what 
burning software they had
on their PC. Obviously not relevant for them!!!

Our comrades in CAS (Computers at School - a UK group) are heavily focusing  
once again on
programming.

So my quest is to compile a list of relevant skills that could be woven into 
our ICT/ITS/IPT
curriculum that will be rich, engaging and relevant.
Would anyone be able to help with ideas?

Paul


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