> On Dec 11, 2015, at 1:42 AM, Ziller Eike <eike.zil...@theqtcompany.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 19:15, Mike Jackson <imikejack...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:imikejack...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I should have noted that I am running OS X 10.10.5 and Xcode 6.4. I have no 
>> idea if I can move up to Xcode 7.x and still use Qt 5.5?
> 
> As far as I know there are no issues with that. I’m using Qt 5.5 on El 
> Capitan on my Notebook as well.

I may try Xcode 7.2 over the weekend on a test machine. Xcode 7 tolerates CMake 
projects better than the 6.x series did.

> 
>> We have to self compile due to our requirement for C++11 support.
> 
> Why do you need to compile Qt yourself for that? We use C++11 in Qt Creator 
> and use the default Qt package build for that (and CONFIG+=c++11 in our .pro 
> files).
> 
> Br, Eike

The default Qt packages turn OFF C++11 support which means that the Qt 
Frameworks are linking against libstdc++ which is the older NON-C++11 compliant 
package. This has been causing issues with our projects where some of our 3rd 
party libraries link against libc++ with C++11 compliance turned on. We get 
spurious crashes and runtime issues unless we get all our our 3rd party 
libraries to specifically link against libc++. Since the default Qt packages 
have a minimum OS X runtime of 10.7 they will link against libstdc++. We crank 
up the minimum to 10.9 and config with C++11 support. This (and other config 
options to other 3rd party libs) have fixed our issues.

There were other benefits to moving to C++11 (like moving from 
boost::shared_ptr to std::shared_ptr) which allowed QtCreators code models 
(both Clang and the internal one) to offer completions MUCH faster than before 
and more completely.

—
Mike Jackson

> 
>> 
>> Also note that my tests are quick and dirty. Just quick “does it launch 
>> quickly when compared to Xcode”.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Mike Jackson
>> 
>>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 11:33 AM, rpzrpz...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks mike for doing this "guinea pig" work.
>>> 
>>> I spend all of my time on OSX and Qt, so not losing developer tool 
>>> effectiveness
>>> on this OSX platform is really important for 5.6. (even though I can tied 
>>> up on 5.5.1 right now and cannot donate cycles.)
>>> 
>>> I am running El Capitan, so that may be a sticking point in late January 
>>> for 6.5RC.
>>> 
>>> md
>>> 
>>> On 12/10/2015 10:28 AM, Mike Jackson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 4:54 AM, Ziller Eike <eike.zil...@theqtcompany.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Mike Jackson <imikejack...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello, 
>>>>>> The issue seems to be resolved. I can debug again. BUT the start up time 
>>>>>> when launching my application is very long. It seems to be taking about 
>>>>>> 1 minute to launch to my gui.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Could you please take a look at the debugger log, what it does during 
>>>>> that long time?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Br, Eike
>>>> 
>>>> The Dec 10 nightly build of 5.6.0 seems to have fixed these issues. The 
>>>> debugger startup is back to normal. The initial gathering of variables on 
>>>> first break is still a bit slower when compared to things like Xcode but 
>>>> is very usable.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Mike Jackson
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> That was with NO breakpoints active. If this last piece is being worked 
>>>>>> on then I think the 3.6 release is shaping up very nicely to make a 
>>>>>> comeback on OS X. I have switched back to the QtCreator code model and 
>>>>>> the completion speed and quality is very close to the likes of Visual 
>>>>>> Studio and Xcode. Keep up the great work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike Jackson
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 4:38 AM, Stenger Christian 
>>>>>>> <christian.sten...@theqtcompany.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> can you please re-check with the newest snapshot? The issue you've 
>>>>>>> mentioned should have been fixed yesterday afternoon, but I assume the 
>>>>>>> package of Nov 30th did not include this fix.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Qt-creator <qt-creator-boun...@qt-project.org> on behalf of Mike 
>>>>>>> Jackson <imikejack...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:08 PM
>>>>>>> To: qt-creator
>>>>>>> Subject: [Qt-creator] Latest 3.6.0-rc1 & Debugging on OS X
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The latest RC’s for the 3.6.0 release are really starting to look nice 
>>>>>>> but just wanted to report here a few issues with the debugging on OS X 
>>>>>>> to see if anyone else was seeing the issues?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Basically with the latest nightly from NOV 30 2015 the debugger errors 
>>>>>>> out and does not start up. One of the nightlies from mid-last week 
>>>>>>> would start up but would just spin LLDB at 100% indefinitely and never 
>>>>>>> seem to come back with the locals and stack when attempting to stop at 
>>>>>>> a break point.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is with OS X 10.10 (Yosemite) and Xcode 6.4.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Mike Jackson
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