I think we should run a counter-counter protest. What kills me is the  pile of 
lies. this is pure scare tactics. I've seen people who get no health care   
that are afraid this bill will mean they have to be  euthanized once they get 
old or are terminally ill. In reality, the bill asks individuals to create 
living wills and DNR's when appropriate. I already have mine. You can state you 
want to be on life support as long as possible.  
If you make more than $350,000 you probably will see a tax increase. That is 
why the wealthy are outraged. The IRS has caught so many rich folks hiding 
money in secret accounts, and they can't afford an increase in taxes unless the 
IRS comes off their high horse and lets them get away with paying a wrist slap. 
How can they be expected to live if they only make $350,000 a year?  Rush can't 
go potty on that amount of money. Why do people take him seriously, he is a 
drug addict? When was the last time you got the truth from someone that sends 
his maid to be his mule in florida then blames his maid because he sent her 
with multiplke scripts for the same drug from 3 different doctors. There are 
thousands in prison for what he did and he was for those laws. 
I am offended when i see rich people get away with criminal acts. 
The Boston Tea Party was an act of radicals. That means they were left wing. 
These people should carry signs saying "OMG WE ARE RICH!" or " I can't read" 




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From: Barbara Vedder <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 4:14:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Fw: The New Health-Care Bill SUMMARY. Please Read. FYI

I think people should read this with care.  I believe all the info to be false. 
 These are the people who are disrupting the town halls all around the country 
and believe what Rush Limbaugh says.  ‘Knocking on the door of our destruction’ 
is a very loaded, fanatical thing to say.  The Tea party people are a bunch of 
loonies.

Barbara


On 8/16/09 7:42 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:


In a message dated 8/12/2009 12:55:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:
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>>Friends, READ THIS!!!!  Things are happening faster  than you ever realized.  
>> I NEVER thought we would have the  government stoop this low and get so 
>>involved in our personal lives!  I  was wrong... this bill is knocking on the 
>>door of our destruction. We  have been told a ton of lies by our  government! 
>>   We must all contact our Reps/Senators  during the August recess and let 
>>them hear from us.  Write them letters  (email isn't as effective)  Make 
>>phone calls!  
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>>The Health Care Bill Summary below should scare you.
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>>Giving people time to read the bill is important--rushing this bill  through 
>>before anyone knows what is in it is a sure sign that they DON'T want  us to 
>>know what they are intending to do to us and this country.  Take  some 
>>time--read this, and anything other info you can get on it, and then let  
>>your congressman and senator (Capitol Switchboard, 202 224  3121) know what 
>>you think!
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>>I downloaded the entire Health Care Bill, crosschecked it with the  Summary 
>>below and found it to be accurate.
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>>Pass this along to everyone you know!
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>> 
>>Bill Gracy
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>>Asst Tea Party Organizer
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>>Next Tea Party September 12th!!!
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>>>Monday, July  20, 2009 
>>>>Shock: Inside the Healthcare Bill -  Unbelievable
>>>>
>>>>Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) is reading it  and has been posting on 
>>>>Twitter his findings <http://twitter.com/fleckman> . This is from  his 
>>>>postings (Note: All comments are  Fleckman's)
>>>>
>>>>Pg 22 of the HC Bill  MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS 
>>>>that self  insure!!
>>>>Why would a company lie about having enough money to self insure? 
>>>>People don't really need to know if their insurance can pay its bills
>>>>
>>>>Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT  COMMITTEE that decides 
>>>>what treatments/benefits you get
>>>>17ommend covered benefits and essential, enhanced,18 and premium plans.
>>>>
>>>>Pg 29  lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS  RATIONED!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices  Commissioner will choose your HC 
>>>>Benefits for you. You have no  choice!
>>>>
>>>>PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to  ALL non US citizens, 
>>>>illegal or otherwise
>>>>
>>>>Pg 58HC Bill - Govt  will have real-time access to individuals finances & a 
>>>>National  ID Healthcard will be issued!
>>>>
>>>>Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt  will have direct access to your banks 
>>>>accounts for electronic funds  transfer
>>>>
>>>>PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for  retirees and their families 
>>>>in Unions & community orgs  (ACORN).
>>>>
>>>>Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange to  bring private HC plans 
>>>>under Govt control.
>>>>
>>>>PG 84 Sec 203 HC  bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC 
>>>>plans in  the Exchange
>>>>
>>>>PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for Benefit Levels  for Plans = The Govt will 
>>>>ration your Healthcare!
>>>>
>>>>PG 91 Lines  4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. 
>>>>Example  - Translation for illegal aliens
>>>>
>>>>Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The  Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps 
>>>>to sign up  individuals for Govt HC plan
>>>>
>>>>PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of  Benefit Levels for Plans. #AARP members - 
>>>>Your Health care WILL be  rationed!
>>>>
>>>>PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible  Individual will be 
>>>>automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No  choice
>>>>
>>>>pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price  fixing. No 
>>>>"judicial review" against Govt Monopoly.
>>>>
>>>>pg 127  Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what 
>>>>you  can make.
>>>>
>>>>Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll  employees into public 
>>>>option plan. NO CHOICE
>>>>
>>>>Pg 126 Lines  22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND 
>>>>their  families.
>>>>
>>>>Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with a payroll 400k  & above who does not 
>>>>provide public option. pays 8% tax on all  payroll
>>>>
>>>>pg 150 Lines 9-13 Business with a payroll between  251k & 400k who doesn't 
>>>>provide public option pays 2-6% tax on  all payroll
>>>>
>>>>Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn't  have acceptable HC according 
>>>>to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of  income
>>>>
>>>>Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is  exempt from individual 
>>>>taxes. (Americans will pay)
>>>>
>>>>Pg 195 HC  Bill -officers & employees of HC Administration (GOVT) will have 
>>>> access to ALL Americans financial/personal records.
>>>>
>>>>PG 203  Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be  
>>>>treated as tax" (Yes, it says that)
>>>>
>>>>Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill  Govt will reduce physician services for 
>>>>Medicaid. Seniors, low  income, poor affected
>>>>
>>>>Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors,  doesn't matter what specialty you have, 
>>>>you'll all be paid the  same
>>>>
>>>>PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr's time,  professional judgement, 
>>>>etc. Literally value of humans.
>>>>
>>>>PG  265 Sec 1131  Govt mandates & controls productivity for  private HC 
>>>>industries
>>>>
>>>>PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates  rental & purchase of power driven 
>>>>wheelchairs
>>>>
>>>>PG 272 SEC.  1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients 
>>>>-  welcome to rationing!
>>>>
>>>>Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will  penalize hospitals for what Govt deems 
>>>>preventable  readmissions.
>>>>
>>>>Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during  initial admission that 
>>>>results in a readmission -Govt will penalize  you!
>>>>
>>>>Pg 317 L 13-20  PROHIBITION on  ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. 
>>>>what/how much they can  own.
>>>>
>>>>Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on Hospital  expansion- Govt is 
>>>>mandating hospitals cannot expand
>>>>
>>>>pg 321  2-13 Hospitals have option to apply for exception to expansion  
>>>>prohibition, BUT community input required. (Can u say  ACORN?!!)
>>>>
>>>>Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates  establishment of outcome based 
>>>>measures. (HC the way they want.  Rationing)
>>>>
>>>>Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority to disqualify  Medicare Advantage 
>>>>Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing people into the Govt  plan
>>>>
>>>>Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of  Special Needs people! 
>>>>
>>>>Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more  bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory 
>>>>Committee. (Can u say HC by  phone?)
>>>>
>>>>PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning  Consultation. Think 
>>>>Senior Citizens end of life  (Euthanasia)
>>>>
>>>>Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct &  consult regarding living wills, 
>>>>durable powers of attorney.   (This is Mandatory!)
>>>>
>>>>PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt  provides approved list of end of 
>>>>life resources, (guiding you in  death)
>>>>
>>>>PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program for orders  for end of life. (The 
>>>>Govt has a say in how your life  ends)
>>>>
>>>>Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "advice care planning consult" will  be used frequently 
>>>>as a patients health deteriorates
>>>>
>>>>PG 429  Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may include an ORDER for end 
>>>>of  life plans. AN ORDER from GOV
>>>>
>>>>Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt  will specify which Doctors can write an end 
>>>>of life order.
>>>>
>>>>PG  430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment you  will 
>>>>have at end of life
>>>>
>>>>Pg 469 - Community Based Home  Medical Services = Non- profit 
>>>>organizations. (Hello, ACORN Medical  Svcs here!!?)
>>>>
>>>>Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED  ORG. 1 monthly payment to 
>>>>a community-based organization. (Like  ACORN?)
>>>>
>>>>PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage &  Family therapy. Which means 
>>>>they will insert Govt into your  marriage.
>>>>
>>>>Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Services  including defining, 
>>>>creating, rationing those  services.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>or 
>>>>http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf
>>>> 
>>>>To  see the Health Care Plan currently under consideration by the House  of 
>>>>Representitives: [this pdf file takes time to download because  the Bill is 
>>>>1,017 pages in  length]
>>>>
>>>>http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf
>>>> 
>>>><http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&amp;docid=f:h3200ih.pdf> 
>>>>to rec
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