Thank You.  I don't have that answer but as consumers its that last  thing 
we think of.  Hopefully, the industry is a couple of miles ahead of  us... 
with a tangible marketing program with finance packages.  Otherwise,  big 
mobility for those in wheelchairs may just go flat or you and I are going to  
read a bunch of stories where someone tried to do this or that and 
failed.....  and someone was injured.
I truly wished that I had a better answer.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/21/2011 7:45:55 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

 

that was a great series of responses and I sincerely compliment you  on 
them. All of these vans are starting to become extremely sophisticated and  
with the government starting to elbow their way in to it, God only knows what  
the future may bring. The older vans that were funded by some state agency 
are  all coming up for replacement and the states just don't have the money 
to do  it as in days of yesteryear. My question is, how are alot of quads 
gonna  afford the next van? It's gonna be tough, very tough. The typical 
service  person in a mobility dealership can't diagnose or fix many of the 
electrical  problems that arise in these vans. Most auto dealers throw up their 
hands when  they see these specialty vans. I only wish and hope the best for 
those folks  with EMC equipment or Scott Systems  when it comes time to 
replace  them-it ain't gonna be cheap. Just thought I'd expound a little. 
hoping 
you  and your family are well.
tom 


 
____________________________________
 From: "[email protected]"  <[email protected]>
To: [email protected];  [email protected]
Sent:  Fri, January 21, 2011 6:08:57 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] optima red top  battery

Thank You Dana, Once again you have  proven what I mentioned.  Your van was 
ok from the factory until it was  converted and someone hooked up wires to 
the wrong spot.  The lift should  be powered directly from the battery and 
protected with a "automotive circuit  breaker"  The doors and ez lock should 
be on their own circuits and  protected with a fuse, relay or a circuit 
breaker. Automotive tires are for  comfort and smooth ride.  Truck tires are 
for 
all terrain and rough  driving.  They can also cost 20 percent more.
Ask your Chevy Dealer for the  proper size battery based on all your new 
additions.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/21/2011  5:59:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:

What is the best battery for a full-size  van? My battery is not working 
but they said because the cigarette lighter  was hooked up to the battery and 
charging all the time. Chevrolet had to  order new parts from the people 
that did the automatic doors, lift and easy  lock. It was wired incorrectly. Is 
it best for full size to have a truck  tire?
Dana
 
In a message dated 1/21/2011 5:49:57 P.M.  Central Standard Time, 
[email protected]  writes:

  
Amen Wheels!  How  was it that YOU were able to find this and those 
"several others" were  not.  Rarely, will this apply to an OEM product.  It 
usually 
 gets messed with during conversion.  A coated wire that carries  energy 
gets burnt or grounded to the frame during fabrication and oops  "There Goes 
Another KerPlop"
 
Best  Wishes
 
 
In a message dated  1/21/2011 5:40:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[email protected]  writes:

 
HERE IS WHAT I FOUND  ABOUT checking for "key off" drain......Read  #1 
If  this checks out, you should check whether or not the battery is holding 
 a charge, or if something on the vehicle is discharging the battery.   
There are three likely scenarios to explain the problems  you're having:  
    1.  A high parasitic draw ("key off" load).This can quickly discharge  
a battery and decrease its service life. This may be caused by a trunk  
light, cigarette lighter, clock/radio, alarm system or any other  electrical 
device. Current drain on the battery can be checked with an  ammeter. With the 
ignition off, disconnect one of the battery cables.  Connect one ammeter 
lead to the battery and the other to the cable.  The normal current drain on 
most vehicles should be about 25 milliamps  or less. If the key-off drain 
exceeds 100 milliamps, there's an  electrical problem that requires further 
diagnosis. If you don’t want  to take your car to a mechanic, the easiest way 
to 
isolate the problem  is to pull one fuse at a time from the fuse panel 
until the ammeter  reading drops.  
    2.  A problem with your battery is causing it to not hold a charge. To  
check this, remove the battery from the vehicle, charge it to the full  
voltage, wait 12-24 hours then measure its voltage. Another faster,  but less 
preferable way to do this, is to turn on the high beam  headlights for 15 
seconds, turn them off, wait five to 10 minutes,  then check the voltage. If 
you measure the voltage of the battery the  next day, week, or even a month 
later, the voltage should be close to  the max voltages listed above. If the 
voltage holds when not installed  in your vehicle but drops when it is in 
your vehicle, see #1 above.  
    3.  The battery was somehow discharged, and your maintenance charger  
is not able to properly charge your deeply discharged battery. Please  see 
the directions for charging a deeply discharged  battery.


----- Original Message -----  
From: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   
To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 4:50  PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] optima red top  battery


"You had people look at your van"  doesn't say a lot about  the quality and 
professionalism of those in the trade that are  certified specialist with a 
miliamperage draw meter.  The test is  performed under the hood in the 
fuse/circuit breaker box... on each  circuit.  The test is performed with the 
key or ignition off and  done with the ignition on.  Its a timely process.  
Not man  people on the street can perform this specialized task.
I can understand that.  So your resolve is to purchase a  premium 
battery... and hope.
I will also be there with you hoping.  I hope the company  that sells you 
that battery has a 24/7 hotlines to service your  emergency needs too.  If 
you have sensitive EMC control panel,  jumping the primary battery is a NO, 
NO.  If you have a backup  battery in your system, you can jump that, if 
needed.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/21/2011 1:59:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Thanks everyone for your ideas.
 
With all my EMC equipment and lift, I plan to buy the  yellow top optima. 
I've had people look at my van and nobody coluld  say if there is a trickle 
discharg happening or where. EMC now makes  the 2nd battery usable if 1str 
battery dies. My old equipment with  2nd airplane battery will not take over 
to start the van. 
 













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