I had not heard that.  In fact, if you could I would appreciate if you could
pass on to me where you heard that data.  That is of course if you can
remember.  I know I can't always remember where I learned certain things.

I do still contend that it has nothing to do with the budget.  It is a
system which is set up to be self-sustaining.
Q

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Danny Hearn <[email protected]> wrote:

> Actually quadius, that used to be the projected theory ---- BUT AS OF
> JANUARY 2011 IT BEGAN GOING UNDER--- many years ahead of what had been
> figured.  2 years ago they thought it would not even hit the dead break even
> point until at least 2018---but thats all old news now.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Quadius <[email protected]>
> *To:* quad-list <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thu, January 27, 2011 7:04:53 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] OMG
>
> Actually cutting Social Security in order to a limited or control the
> deficit is a fallacy.  Social Security has nothing to do with the death or
> deficit.  It does need to be restructured if it's going to be completely
> solvent in 25 years, but even as it is right now it's going to return 70%
> for those people getting Social Security in 25 years.
>
> Things do need to be done to resolve this problem, but it is not imperative
> it be lumped in with deficit reduction.
> BTW, I watched the State of the Union, but my DVR didn't get all of the
> Republican response.  In my opinion it was a pretty good speech, although it
> didn't have a lot of specifics.  But hardly any of the State of the Union
> speeches do have a ton of concrete data.
> Q
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:02 AM, bob quinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, given the country's huge deficit (thank-you hedge-funders,
>> corrupt mortgage brokers, and W's foray into Iraq), cuts in "entitlements"
>> (I hate that inappropriate phrase), namely Social Security and
>> Medicaid/Medicare are inevitable ...especially, considering the increasing
>> demands on them as the Baby-Boomer generation reach retirement age.
>>
>> It's incredibly unfair, but they are too big an expense to escape it.  In
>> that regard, I fear things are going to get worse for many before things get
>> better.  About the only thing you can take some consolation in is that I'm
>> sure the tax cuts for the upper-most 2% will be eliminated before
>> entitlements are attacked.
>>
>>
>> At 08:04 AM 1/27/2011, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> Anything is palatable if you place enough real whipped cream over it.
>> That is today's politics.  That being said... I enjoyed the speeches. I
>> enjoy listening to a standing President who speaks English, and doesn't make
>> up their own words. I felt as though I was at a pep rally and the speakers
>> were hoping to motivate those who listened.  I am much aware that the
>> President is the person who signs the bills into law.  Its those other
>> people both men and women that represents their states that make up bill,
>> argue their validity, and spend tons of money, trying to get others to agree
>> with them and their policies.
>>
>> It bothers me when spending cuts are mentioned and the big two are always
>> mentioned.  Social Security and HealthCare.  Keep in mind, those who are
>> promoting spending cuts are wealthy enough NOT to be affected by those
>> spending cuts.  And yet they make the decisions for all of us.
>>
>> I want those people who represent us to have exposure to the very same
>> benefits as we do.  No more... No less.  Granted, its only a dream and I can
>> wish.......
>> Best Wishes
>>
>> In a message dated 1/26/2011 9:58:36 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>> [email protected] writes:
>>  Well, Eric...  So whatd'ya think?  Good, Bad, Impartial?  Left, Right,
>> Centrist?  Too much, too little, not enough? (almost an hour)
>>
>> Me... I'm primarily curious in knowing just how many folks really watched
>> the whole thing, and/or the Republican rebuttal, and/or perhaps the
>> Bachman/Tea Party response/rebuttal (if it was aired on your station).  And,
>> of those who watched, what did they hear in that which was said?
>> I'm very often dismayed at how much arguing about politics happens when
>> it's compared to how much people actually watch, and more importantly pay
>> attention to all sides of an issue, when our officials are working in
>> Congress or speaking to the media live (not edited soundbites for/from
>> pundits).
>>
>> I'm glad at least two of us decided to hear what Mr. Prez had to say.
>> Good Deal, my man!
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Tod Santee
>> Tucson, AZ
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Eric W Rudd <[email protected]> wrote:
>>  I am keeping an open mind...but thinking 'what the hell'...let's hear
>> what u have to say mr president.
>>
>> Eric W Rudd
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>

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