John,

Penalties for slapping a vest and passing your dog off as a fake service dog, 
vary from state to state, 
in California it is a Misdemeanor carries a $2500 fine and up to a year in 
jail, in Florida
it is a Felony.  

Under ADA Guidelines a service dog is never allowed to attack.  By slapping a 
service dog vest on an aggressive
dog that "scares the hell out of people" and "will chase folks" you are setting 
yourself for up for the possibility
of a huge fine, jail time and a lawsuit.

Bob

 
On Aug 15, 2012, at 1:08 PM, John S. wrote:

> The past few years I've been lucky enough to have a dog. Shes a lab/pit bull 
> mix and she scares hell out of people. If I don't say hush girl, she will 
> chase folks. On walks she is not offensive unless people start yelling and 
> her bark always calms things down. She drew blood once from a guy that that 
> kept coming at me after she had warned him and I didn't call her back. Its 
> hard to explain how much safer I feel with her around. Even my aide likes 
> walking to the store with her and her fake sevice dog coat on. The bet money 
> I've spent in a long time    
> BW,    
> john
> 
> From: RONALD L PRACHT <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] protection
> 
> 
> I drive a lift van, so the idea is to get in and close the doors....then im 
> in my safe zone. Behind the passenger captains chair I have a large knife 
> thats been adapted for my use to defend myself or cut things if im in a jam. 
> I can shoot a low caliber pistol , but not in a hurry, so thats out of the 
> question for me to use it for defense. In my house I have a rifle hidden, but 
> at the ready......if I hear someone breaking the door down i will shoot them. 
> Ive tried mace as well, kind of hard to use against an atacker but for dogs 
> could work.
>  
> If you live in a ghetto its not if you will be a victim its when. If people 
> are able to get into your car basically you are at their mercy. Carry minimal 
> amounts of cash and use credit or debit cards, dont ever count cash in view. 
> If an attacker has a weapon and tells you to hand over your wallet or 
> vehicle....give it to him.  A couple weeks ago here in St. Louis a paraplegic 
> man was carjacked and thrown on the ground, he begged for his chair and they 
> threw the frame out without the wheels. At least he had his life. Another 
> thing to add is dont display to many things on your vehicle that make it 
> obvious you are handicapped, these thugs are looking for easy targets and 
> sadly the elderly or handicapped are prime to be victimized. We all have 
> handicapped plates but they still arent sure how able you are. Be aware of 
> your surroundings all the time, dont trust people when they come up to you 
> out of nowhere.
>  
>                                                          Ron c7
> From: Mandy <[email protected]>
> To: Danny Hearn <[email protected]>
> Cc: Todd Daugherty <[email protected]>; quad list 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed, August 15, 2012 1:00:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] protection
> 
> I know where you're coming from but I refuse to accept that...if you have the 
> ability to move your arms you can learn to block or use a well-placed elbow 
> (I'm at the perfect height to drive my elbow into someone's throat if they're 
> close to me). Go for the throat, kidneys, soft bits. Plus, my chair with me 
> in it is a little over half a ton. Run those f****** over. I would rather 
> have my teeth pulled one by one than let some worthless, lazy ass junky steal 
> from me or make me feel scared/victimized. 
> 
> Mandy, c5-7 
> 
> On Aug 14, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Danny Hearn <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I don't think there is much a quad can do besides, Try to travel with 
>> someone when possible---Always be aware of surroundings, daytime is usually 
>> safer than nighttme hours. Try to check out parking lots and not go to your 
>> van while anyone is loitering near it when you leave. Other than the common 
>> sense things, there may not be a lot we can do for protection. -- Dan H.
>> 
>> From: Todd Daugherty <[email protected]>
>> To: quad list <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tue, August 14, 2012 1:05:12 PM
>> Subject: [QUAD-L] protection
>> 
>> How do you guys/girls protect yourself?  I went and looked at guns and while 
>> i could grip it good i could not pull the trigger.  I keep a small buck 
>> knife in my carrying bag but that's about it.  I feel pretty vulnerable in 
>> some places, especially in parking lots where it takes me a few minutes to 
>> get my chair in/out and my door is open.  I've had homeless, etc come up to 
>> me during this time, and once I accidentally left my passenger door unlocked 
>> and one of them just got in and sat down, asking for money/ride.  Took me a 
>> few minutes to talk him out.  Tazer maybe?  "Don't taze me bro!!"
>> 
>> Todd D
>> c-6 inc '89
> 
> 

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