I use the standard size hospital urinal. I'm not sure of its capacity - 1000 cc 
maybe? If so, I void about 800 cc twice a day. It's the plastic male jug you 
get at the hospital.

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> From: Nan <nlg52...@yahoo.com>
> Date: January 22, 2013, 2:54:02 PM EST
> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@msn.com>, "quad-list@eskimo.com" 
> <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Ditropan vs. Propantheline
> Reply-To: Nan <nlg52...@yahoo.com>
> 
> The only downside I have found is the dry mouth.  
> 
> Have you ever thought about cathing more often?  How much do you drink a day?
> 
> 
> Here is information from Wikipedia:
> Propantheline bromide (INN) is an antimuscarinic agent used for the treatment 
> of excessive sweating (hyperhidrosis), cramps or spasms of the stomach, 
> intestines (gut) or bladder, and involuntary urination (enuresis). It can 
> also be used to control the symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome and similar 
> conditions. This agent can also be used for patients who experience intense 
> GI symptoms while tapering off of TCAs. [1]
> Contents  [hide] 
> 1 Indications
> 2 Adverse effects
> 3 Mechanism of action
> 4 References
> [edit]Indications
> 
> By relaxing the gut muscle, propantheline can relieve pain in conditions 
> caused by spasm of the muscle in the gut. Relaxing the smooth muscle in the 
> bladder prevents the involuntary spasms that can allow leakage of urinefrom 
> the bladder in the condition known as enuresis (involuntary urination in 
> adults). Propantheline can also be used to treat excessive sweating because 
> acetylcholine block also reduces secretions such as sweat and tears.
> [edit]Adverse effects
> 
> Side effects include tachycardia, constipation, hypersensitivity to light, 
> dry mouth, and urinary retention. This can also be prescribed by dentists for 
> certain patients who salivate excessively. By taking this medication it 
> becomes easier to do "dry" dentistry
> [edit]Mechanism of action
> 
> Propantheline is one of a group of antispasmodic medications which work by 
> blocking the action of the chemical messenger acetylcholine, which is 
> produced by nerve cells, to muscarinic receptors present in varioussmooth 
> muscular tissues, in places such as the gut, bladder and eye. Normally, the 
> binding of acetylcholine induces involuntary smooth muscular contractions.
> 
> From: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@msn.com>
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:51 PM
> Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Ditropan vs. Propantheline
> 
> In the last couple of months, my ditropan seems to have lost its 
> effectiveness. I have begun leaking urine and cold-sweating, especially at 
> night. Waking up to a soaked bed every morning is both depressing and 
> disgusting. I usually cath twice a day -- morning and bedtime. I am 
> considering switching to propantheline. Is this feasible? Any downsides I 
> should be aware of?
> 
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> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>> From: Nan <nlg52...@yahoo.com>
>> Date: January 20, 2013, 2:03:37 PM EST
>> To: "daa...@aol.com" <daa...@aol.com>, "g...@eskimo.com" <g...@eskimo.com>, 
>> "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ditropan vs. Propantheline
>> Reply-To: Nan <nlg52...@yahoo.com>
>> 
>> 
>> I'll take the dry mouth to the sweating any day.  I recently tried cutting 
>> the Propantheline in half, thanks to a Q-List member, and that really 
>> helped.  Plus, I never mind drinking more - and when my mouth is dry I 
>> always drink more...
>> 
>> I'm a Propantheline advocate, but what it boils down to is that we are all 
>> different.  Try some to the meds that have been discussed and go with 
>> whatever works for you. :)
>> .  
>> Nan
>> 
>> From: "daa...@aol.com" <daa...@aol.com>
>> To: g...@eskimo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com 
>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 11:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ditropan vs. Propantheline
>> 
>> There are so many things that Medicare part D doesn't cover. My 
>> out-of-pocket has tripled. I don't even know if mine is covered because they 
>> charge my credit card. It doesn't say what it is for. Propantheline really 
>> dries out my mouth and it is uncomfortable. I have to drink all the time. It 
>> takes quite some time to wear off.
>> Dana
>>  
>> In a message dated 1/18/2013 4:51:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
>> g...@eskimo.com writes:
>> Ditropan gave me like panic dreams.
>> Not nightmares, but I'd wakeup startled. No idea what I was dreaming.
>> Greg
>> 
>> 
>> >> My insurance stopped covering my propantheline as of this month.
>> >> Can anyone tell me if ditropan works as well?
>> >>
>> >> Meredith
>> >>
>> >> From: "Larry Willis" <lwillis82...@msn.com>
>> >> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
>> >> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:08:14 PM
>> >> Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Flu Shots/vomiting
>> >>
>> >> I take ditropan but I have never tried propantheline. It sounds
>> >> like something that would help me a lot. Do any of you take both?
>> >> The ditropan dries out my mouth so bad I think my tongue is going
>> >> to break off. I'll definitely mention prop. to my doc next time.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPad
>> >>
>> >> Begin forwarded message:
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>> >>
>> >>> From: greg <g...@eskimo.com>
>> >>> Date: January 17, 2013, 4:07:29 PM EST
>> >>> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@msn.com>
>> >>> Subject: Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Flu Shots/vomiting
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> like
>> 
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