As we used to say, "Right On". When doctors start B'S about addiction, I want to break some of their bones. I will do and use whatever I think I need regardless of what Congress or insurance companies may have decided for me. The pee party wants to emulate our forefathers, fine. They were smugglers and sick of government treating them like second class citizens. I'll get what I must using any corrupt system they devise. john s
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Gentrie Pool <gentr...@yahoo.com> Date:11/09/2014 11:12 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fwd: Monkey shines Well said, Larry. And people who don't agree have either never experienced it or have never seen a loved one endure it. Please excuse any typos or brevity of tone as this was typed using an iPhone (and possibly Siri, in an effort to be as safe as possible while en route.) G On Nov 9, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote: When pain becomes chronic, severe, and unrelenting, we will beg for any kind of relief be it pills, booze, or a gun. It takes other-world strength to endure severe pain, and I do not have that. After 43 years any noble notion of facing life drug-free left me long ago. I do or take whatever makes my life easier to endure. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <diannal...@aol.com> Date: Saturday, November 8, 2014 Subject: Monkey shines To: bswif...@aol.com, quad-list@eskimo.com every quad is different. if you were in enough pain perhaps you would understand it. i'm usually hurting in the morning, haven't had the chance to over use my body. 35 post injury and I have a wife and 3 kids life sucks some times. Taking pills and booze does not change that. If 6 out of 10 quads try to kill themselves then it is what it is. I am a C5/6 quad and I have pain because of over use etc and I don't understand the massive use of pain meds. -----Original Message----- From: Brian P Swift <bswif...@aol.com> To: diannal767 <diannal...@aol.com> Sent: Thu, Nov 6, 2014 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Monkey shines 35 post injury and I have a wife and 3 kids life sucks some times. Taking pills and booze does not change that. If 6 out of 10 quads try to kill themselves then it is what it is. I am a C5/6 quad and I have pain because of over use etc and I don't understand the massive use of pain meds. Brian P. Swift brianpswift.com https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006859653620 -----Original Message----- From: diannal767 <diannal...@aol.com> To: r.pracht <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>; quad-list <quad-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Thu, Nov 6, 2014 11:50 am Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Monkey shines i agree with you ron. i thought about it alot in the 1st year. my grand daughter, that i speak of often, keeps me going. she brightens my world immensely. she's 11. she lives in the same small neighborhood as i. she is very, considerate and considers others feelings most of the time. cool personality. she came home monday crying because her best friend (a diabetic) had to go to the hospital. i asked if she was okay and yes she was but isabella was pissed because the friend wasn't compliant with her medicine. i know i'm way off topic and rambling but my point is, she gives me reason to live. a feeling that someone needs me to talk to and often tells me things swearing me to secrecy. she does however remind me that i'm stuck in this chair. we listen to music on you tube, she dances & i wish soo much i could dance, ride bikes, etc. before she was born, i kept going and was happiest when i was on prozac and beer....just being honest here. dianna > I'm in the process of watching Monkey Shines right now (Wed 2:47 pm). The doc > just said 6 out of ten quads attempt suicide. He didn't say how many were > successful. What do you guys think about that number? I've thought about it > many times but never actually attempted. Thoughts of my family always pull me > out of it. If I were absolutely alone and in a nursing home, might be a > different story. Or maybe not. I dunno. -----Original Message----- From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net> To: quad-list <quad-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 5, 2014 8:55 pm Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Monkey shines after my last surgery I went back to my swimming and lifting as soon as possible. Upon returning my coach told me "you are a fucked up quad Ron". I said "no Steve the fucked up quads are at home and never go out" Ron On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 7:45 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote: Well said, Ron. I think you expressed the feelings of many of us. On Wednesday, November 5, 2014, RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: I have thought about suicide many times. Its not really to do with being a quad in itself.............its the pain, hurt, being shunned, what could have beens, people throwing the blame on you, watching other people live full lives while you struggle to hold your own or make small gains. The times where I have been happy I was doing things, going places with girlfriends, doing my swimming..........then things were good and life was worth it. Its a very slippery slope as a quad if you have little support. Im sure someone on here will tell how life is better now as a quad and they make more money now and women just knock the door down to sleep with them. Its really about your support system and some about self motivation. I have seen people on both ends of the spectrum and everywhere in between. enjoy the ride while you can. ron On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 2:09 PM, Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com> wrote: I already know exactly how I am going to carry it out when my pain gets bad enough. Bobbie Smile Everyday > On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm in the process of watching Monkey Shines right now (Wed 2:47 pm). The doc > just said 6 out of ten quads attempt suicide. He didn't say how many were > successful. What do you guys think about that number? I've thought about it > many times but never actually attempted. Thoughts of my family always pull me > out of it. If I were absolutely alone and in a nursing home, might be a > different story. Or maybe not. I dunno.
