On Saturday, Mar 1, 2003, at 19:51 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:

> Then something is wrong with them *in that machine*.
>
> Like Mark said, that happens on occasion.  The 840AV is probably the 
> pickiest
> Mac ever made when it comes to RAM and VRAM speeds, and a chip that's 
> only
> marginally out of spec might work fine in every other 68K but fail in 
> the 840AV.

I have also had trouble with VRAM in Power Macs seating badly, as well 
as in odd LCs. Maybe, as the speckles say in one place while u move the 
RAM, you have a flakey VRAM socket or dirty contacts in one of the 
socket beds.

> What you're describing is *exactly* the problem that happens when VRAM 
> is too
> slow for a system; a 575 will demonstrate *identical* symptoms with 80 
> ns VRAM
> (at least, most of the time) when the bus is clocked past about 40 MHz.
> Stepping up to 70 ns VRAM solves the problem.  Some 80 ns VRAM modules 
> work
> just fine, however, which proves that VRAM spec'd at a single speed 
> clearly
> isn't 100% consistent in its performance.  Some 80 ns VRAM is, to put 
> it
> bluntly, faster than other 80 ns VRAM.

But the VRAM is 70ns, it says so in the chips. I don't think that is 
the problem here. It's either it doesn't like 512k VRAM or the VRAM is 
not seating well. VRAM in Macs is so fickle, I have solved corruption 
problem in a 7500 by taking the VRAM out, juggling it and putting it 
back in a different order. It's a crazy science!

> It sounds like you just need to find some different VRAM modules and 
> put those
> to use somewhere that isn't so timing-sensitive.

Like LCs :).

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