I'm starting to feel stupid talking to myself here.  What are the
magic words I need to say to get any kind of response to this issue?

It's a rather fundamental difference in behaviuor and it breaks my use
case.  Help, please.

-- 
Alex

On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:36:20 +0200, g...@switch.ch said:

> Can someone please comment at least on the differing behaviour of
> zebrad with respect to routes of type "ra" and "kernel"?

> Should "ra" be trated like "kernel"?  If not, why?

> --
> Alex

> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:57:17 +0100, g...@switch.ch said:

>> I've been using quagga for a long time to implement router-style
>> "loopback" addresses on multi-homed hosts, i.e. I configure a /128 on
>> the lo device and announce it via BGP.  The host receives a default
>> route ::/0 and I use BGP policies to select which interface to prefer
>> for outbound traffic.  At the same time, the host uses SLAAC to
>> set up a default route on each interface as a fallback.

>> Here is an example using Quagga 0.99.22.4 on Linux 3.2.0 which works
>> as desired:

>> $ ip -6 r l | grep default
>> default via fe80::2a94:fff:fefd:5bc0 dev eth2  proto zebra  metric 10 
>> default via fe80::2a94:fff:fefd:5bc0 dev eth0  proto kernel  metric 1024  
>> expires 1794sec hoplimit 64
>> default via fe80::2a94:fff:fefd:5bc0 dev eth2  proto kernel  metric 1024  
>> expires 1783sec hoplimit 64
>> default via fe80::2a94:fff:fefd:4940 dev eth3  proto kernel  metric 1024  
>> expires 1676sec hoplimit 64
>> default via fe80::2a94:fff:fefd:4940 dev eth1  proto kernel  metric 1024  
>> expires 1794sec hoplimit 64

zebrad> sh ipv6 ro 
>> Codes: K - kernel route, C - connected, S - static, R - RIPng,
>> O - OSPFv6, I - IS-IS, B - BGP, A - Babel,
>>> - selected route, * - FIB route

B> * ::/0 [20/10] via fe80::2a94:fff:fefd:5bc0, eth2, 03w3d01h
C> * ::1/128 is directly connected, lo
C> * 2001:620::1a/128 is directly connected, lo
C> * 2001:620:0:ff::3/128 is directly connected, lo
C> * 2001:620:0:800c::/64 is directly connected, eth0
C> * 2001:620:0:800d::/64 is directly connected, eth2
C> * 2001:620:0:800e::/64 is directly connected, eth1
C> * 2001:620:0:800f::/64 is directly connected, eth3
>> C * fe80::/64 is directly connected, eth3
>> C * fe80::/64 is directly connected, eth1
>> C * fe80::/64 is directly connected, eth2
C> * fe80::/64 is directly connected, eth0
zebrad> sh ipv6 ro ::/0
>> Routing entry for ::/0
>> Known via "bgp", distance 20, metric 10, best
>> Last update 03w3d01h ago
>> * fe80::2a94:fff:fefd:5bc0, via eth2

>> The BGP route is installed in the kernel with metric 10 as expected.
>> If the host looses its BGP peers, it still has the default routes via
>> SLAAC.

>> On another system running Quagga 0.99.23.1 and Linux 3.16.0, the BGP
>> route doesn't get installed:

>> $ ip -6 r l | grep default
>> default via fe80::207:7dff:fe76:5980 dev eth0  proto ra  metric 1024  
>> expires 1631sec hoplimit 64
>> default via fe80::207:7dff:fe76:5940 dev eth4  proto ra  metric 1024  
>> expires 1709sec hoplimit 64

zebrad> sh ipv6 ro
>> Codes: K - kernel route, C - connected, S - static, R - RIPng,
>> O - OSPFv6, I - IS-IS, B - BGP, A - Babel,
>>> - selected route, * - FIB route

>> B   ::/0 [20/1] via fe80::207:7dff:fe76:5940, eth4, 04w3d23h
K> * ::/0 via fe80::207:7dff:fe76:5940, eth4
C> * ::1/128 is directly connected, lo
C> * 2001:620::10/128 is directly connected, lo
C> * 2001:620:0:8018::/64 is directly connected, eth0
C> * 2001:620:0:8019::/64 is directly connected, eth4
>> C * fe80::/64 is directly connected, eth4
C> * fe80::/64 is directly connected, eth0
zebrad> sh ipv6 ro ::/0
>> Routing entry for ::/0
>> Known via "bgp", distance 20, metric 1
>> Last update 04w3d23h ago
>> fe80::207:7dff:fe76:5940, via eth4

>> Routing entry for ::/0
>> Known via "kernel", distance 0, metric 1024, best
>> * fe80::207:7dff:fe76:5940, via eth4

>> The difference is that zebrad now picks up one of the default routes
>> from SLAAC with an administrative distance of 0, which makes it
>> impossible to override with BGP.

>> The obvious difference is that the 3.16 kernel uses proto "ra" instead
>> of proto "kernel" for the routes learned via SLAAC (i don't know in
>> which kernel version this started to happen).  I'm totally unfamiliar
>> with the Quagga code, but a glance at
>> zebra/rt_netlink.c:netlink_routing_table() seems to suggest that
>> routes of type "kernel" are always ignored due to

>> if (rtm->rtm_protocol == RTPROT_KERNEL)
>> return 0;

>> Since the routes in question are now using proto "ra", they are no
>> longer ignored, hence the different behaviour of zebrad.

>> So, my question is whether this is really how it's supposed to be.  If
>> so, how can I override it?  I do believe that I should be able to do
>> that.  If it's a bug, maybe routes of type RTPROT_RA should be ignored
>> as well?

>> --
>> Alex

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