Potentially worrying but I've done so much to Quantum I may as well carry on and see what happens now.... (Electric 2+2) Anthony Johnson
Email: antjohn...@gmail.com On 14 May 2016 at 22:28, <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote: > quantumowners@googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/quantumowners/topics> > Google > Groups > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> > Topic digest > View all topics > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/quantumowners/topics> > > - Electric 2+2, selling engine and stainless exhaust. > <#m_-2923327994857530824_group_thread_0> - 4 Updates > - Digest for quantumowners@googlegroups.com - 5 updates in 2 topics > <#m_-2923327994857530824_group_thread_1> - 2 Updates > - Stoneleigh <#m_-2923327994857530824_group_thread_2> - 1 Update > > Electric 2+2, selling engine and stainless exhaust. > <http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners/t/759f91e332473d2a?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Rolf <rol...@12move.nl>: May 13 11:22PM -0700 > > There is a company in Wales http://www.dragonev.co.uk/ which converts > ordinary cars to electric. > At Stoneleigh they showed a yellow Vindicator with a DC motor coupled to a > gearbox. > They probably will have sorted out a way for correct registration. > > Missd you at Stoneleigh to have a chat about your conversion project, but > I am interested to see any progress. > Could you make pictures and put them in a photobucket on here? > > Rolf > "Chris" <chris.quan...@btinternet.com>: May 14 09:48AM +0100 > > The was a company at Stoneleigh a few years ago who were selling a fully > electric fully built 7 type. > > I can’t see what the problem would be getting it through IVA as surly that > is about build quality/design and pointy things rather than how it is > powered? > > Chris G > > > From: 'Jamest142' via Quantum Owners Group > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 8:03 PM > To: Quantum Owners Group > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric 2+2, selling engine and stainless > exhaust. > > Hiya > > > Not sure on the road legal part, but there was someone with a demo of a > kit which was electric - had a motor attached to a gearbox, and lead acid > batteries in the front bay area. There was no body attached - it was just a > space frame chassis. > > I cannot remember what the company was called - but it was tucked in one > of the areas between the halls, and was next to a stand showing car seats > and electronic speedos. > > I hope this helps. > > James T > Q2-002 > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As > Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or > in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or > alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained > within this or related message(s). > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > "Susan and Martin Scott" <susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk>: > May 14 10:25AM +0100 > > If 400V at high amps is available it could be a bit dodgy! - In my short > time working at Lotus, one of the assembly lines was for the Tesla sports > car........ At several point there were signs showing a graphic of a limp > body being lifted using the large oragne plastic 'shepherds crook' provided. > I understand (don't know if this is accurate) that the Toyots Prius values > fall off a cliff after a few years because of the difficulty/restrictions > imposed on anyone working on them - Though I guess that applies to any > 'high tech' product where the tools are so specialist that only the main > stealer has them, not just because they involve E motors? > Martin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris > To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:48 AM > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric 2+2, selling engine and stainless > exhaust. > > > The was a company at Stoneleigh a few years ago who were selling a fully > electric fully built 7 type. > > I can’t see what the problem would be getting it through IVA as surly that > is about build quality/design and pointy things rather than how it is > powered? > > Chris G > > > From: 'Jamest142' via Quantum Owners Group > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 8:03 PM > To: Quantum Owners Group > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric 2+2, selling engine and stainless > exhaust. > > Hiya > > > Not sure on the road legal part, but there was someone with a demo of a > kit which was electric - had a motor attached to a gearbox, and lead acid > batteries in the front bay area. There was no body attached - it was just a > space frame chassis. > > I cannot remember what the company was called - but it was tucked in one > of the areas between the halls, and was next to a stand showing car seats > and electronic speedos. > > I hope this helps. > > James T > Q2-002 > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As > Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. 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Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or > in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or > alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained > within this or related message(s). > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > "dar...@siepka.me.uk" <dar...@siepka.me.uk>: May 14 03:09AM -0700 > > There is a chap on autospeed magazine(online) he has written several > articles explaining hiw to safely work with ev batterys etc. He has made > several prius transplant too > Back to top <#m_-2923327994857530824_digest_top> > Digest for quantumowners@googlegroups.com - 5 updates in 2 topics > <http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners/t/cc3dc4dfb4617d63?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Anthony Johnson <antjohn...@gmail.com>: May 14 12:21AM +0100 > > Thanks for heads up. Couldn't find the article you mention though. As Kit > car was already road legal (although SORN at present) it may just be a > change on the form from petrol to EV once an official has checked it? > > Sent from my iPhone 6S+ > > "Susan and Martin Scott" <susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk>: > May 14 10:17AM +0100 > > I found it again. It's in the section entitled 'brexit benefit to kit > cars?' I have trouble finding anything with a Pistonheads search - it just > doesn't seem to find anything current! (no pun intended) > anyway, here's the comment, from Stuart Mills of MEV. Oh it won't paste! > Here's the link > > http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=30&t=1591234&i=80 > > > Martin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anthony Johnson > To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 12:21 AM > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Digest for quantumowners@googlegroups.com - > 5 updates in 2 topics > > > Thanks for heads up. Couldn't find the article you mention though. As Kit > car was already road legal (although SORN at present) it may just be a > change on the form from petrol to EV once an official has checked it? > > Sent from my iPhone 6S+ > > On 13 May 2016, at 22:26, quantumowners@googlegroups.com wrote: > > > quantumowners@googlegroups.com Google Groups > > Topic digest > View all topics > a.. Electric 2+2, selling engine and stainless exhaust. - 2 Updates > b.. Overheating - 3 Updates > Electric 2+2, selling engine and stainless exhaust. "Susan and Martin > Scott" <susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk>: May 12 11:28PM > +0100 > > I just searched for your note because there was mention on Pistonheads > (look > in Kit Car section) about it being impossible to IVA an electric kit car! > If > you intend to put it on the road, it may be prudent to investigate. > Martin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anthony Johnson" <antjohn...@gmail.com> > To: <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:21 AM > Subject: [Quantum Owners] Electric 2+2, selling engine and stainless > exhaust. > > > I will be trying (again) to convert my 2+2 using a kit, this time as a > school project. At the same time it will get a refurb, better electric > windows, heated seats etc and as many upgrades and toys as makes sense. It > already has a mk 3 fiesta dash as never liked original dash. > Anyone done conversion. Any guidance on this would be appreciated. Also > with > how to make the rest of the car the "Ultimate 2+2". > A low mileage Xetec 1.8, stainless exhaust and fuel tank will be up for > grabs if anyone is interested. > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As > Is" > basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or > in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to > any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or > alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained > within this or related message(s). > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > Jamest142 <jamest...@yahoo.co.uk>: May 13 12:03PM -0700 > > Hiya > > Not sure on the road legal part, but there was someone with a demo of a > kit > which was electric - had a motor attached to a gearbox, and lead acid > batteries in the front bay area. There was no body attached - it was just > a space frame chassis. > > I cannot remember what the company was called - but it was tucked in one > of > the areas between the halls, and was next to a stand showing car seats and > electronic speedos. > > I hope this helps. > > James T > Q2-002 > > > Back to top > Overheating "Chris" <chris.quan...@btinternet.com>: May 13 10:34AM +0100 > > Ok, I’ll investigate the starter wire for the ignition switch (I thought > that was the earth...hey ho). > I used a 17 amp wire because it was the biggest I had plus it was bigger > than the wire fitted to the fan (aftermarket). > > >The fan should only be coming on in slow moving or stationary traffic, if > it's overheating while moving it's something else. > > Any suggestions? > > The engine was rebuilt just over a year ago, when it was rebuilt before > (11 years and 120,000 miles before) it also ran hot for a while then ran > cooler as the years went by. > > Chris G > > > From: Jim Hearne > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 7:12 PM > To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Overheating > > I hope you've fixed your problem, but.... > > The only earth wire from the starter is the great big black one from the > engine block/starter to the battery. > If that had a break in it i'd also expect you to have trouble with the > battery charging and the engine cutting out. > Also, the fan wouldn't normally be earthed to that point, though it is a > Quantum so it's possible somebody did. > If you have intermittent starting issues it's probably the starter wire > from the ignition switch that has the problem (Black with a Blue stripe > from memory), quite possibly it's the round push on fitting on the end if > it's original or a crimp connector if not. > The stud or tab on the starter is plated steel and rusts creating an > intermittent connection. > > Also, 17 amp wire isn't really enough for the fan circuit, the fan is > fused with a 20 amp fuse. > I would use 27 to 30 amp (3mm squared) wire for the fan circuit > > The fan should only be coming on in slow moving or stationary traffic, if > it's overheating while moving it's something else. > > Sorry, > > Jim > > > > > On 12/05/2016 16:12, Chris wrote: > > My 1.6 saloon has been plagued by overheating problems for nearly a year. > > The Thermostat was playing up – so I changed it. > The Fan switch was intermittent – see above. > The Head gasket blew – bugger.....see above. > The Fan switch plug disintegrated – ditto. > The Fan was notchy – you get the idea.......... > > After all that it STILL overheated alot. > > Until I had a thought........ > > The Earth wire from the starter has a break in it (I know this), so that > sometimes when I turn the key nothing happens and I have to pop the bonnet > and wiggle the wire a bit, then try again. > The Fans Earth connects to the same wire......Hmmm > ‘If the Earth wire is dodgy between the Fan and the Battery, that would > explain alot’ > > I now have a New 17 amp wire running from the Fan earth to the battery. > Yesterday, for the first time in a long time, it Didn’t overheat. > In fact, the needle didn’t even get halfway up the gauge! > > I’m currently touching every piece of wood in the house, hoping that I > have now Finally fixed it........ > > Chris G > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6201 / Virus Database: 4568/12210 - Release Date: 05/11/16 > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As > Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or > in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or > alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained > within this or related message(s). > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As > Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or > in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or > alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained > within this or related message(s). > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > "Chris" <chris.quan...@btinternet.com>: May 13 11:03AM +0100 > > Plus, the fan wasn’t kicking in when it should have so the temp just kept > on rising. Then when it did decide to work it would bring the temp back > down a bit until it decided not to work again (usually when going over a > bump in the road). > > When I idled the engine up to temp after fitting the new wire, the fan > came on when the needle was about a third to half of the way up the gauge, > which from the last 2 trips I did was normal running temp. > > By the way, it also has a new rad, new ish heater matrix, a new water pump > and new ish silicone hoses > I need to check the ignition timing with my new timing gun as I only did > it by ear. > > Chris G > > > From: Jim Hearne > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 7:12 PM > To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Overheating > > I hope you've fixed your problem, but.... > > The only earth wire from the starter is the great big black one from the > engine block/starter to the battery. > If that had a break in it i'd also expect you to have trouble with the > battery charging and the engine cutting out. > Also, the fan wouldn't normally be earthed to that point, though it is a > Quantum so it's possible somebody did. > If you have intermittent starting issues it's probably the starter wire > from the ignition switch that has the problem (Black with a Blue stripe > from memory), quite possibly it's the round push on fitting on the end if > it's original or a crimp connector if not. > The stud or tab on the starter is plated steel and rusts creating an > intermittent connection. > > Also, 17 amp wire isn't really enough for the fan circuit, the fan is > fused with a 20 amp fuse. > I would use 27 to 30 amp (3mm squared) wire for the fan circuit > > The fan should only be coming on in slow moving or stationary traffic, if > it's overheating while moving it's something else. > > Sorry, > > Jim > > > > > On 12/05/2016 16:12, Chris wrote: > > My 1.6 saloon has been plagued by overheating problems for nearly a year. > > The Thermostat was playing up – so I changed it. > The Fan switch was intermittent – see above. > The Head gasket blew – bugger.....see above. > The Fan switch plug disintegrated – ditto. > The Fan was notchy – you get the idea.......... > > After all that it STILL overheated alot. > > Until I had a thought........ > > The Earth wire from the starter has a break in it (I know this), so that > sometimes when I turn the key nothing happens and I have to pop the bonnet > and wiggle the wire a bit, then try again. > The Fans Earth connects to the same wire......Hmmm > ‘If the Earth wire is dodgy between the Fan and the Battery, that would > explain alot’ > > I now have a New 17 amp wire running from the Fan earth to the battery. > Yesterday, for the first time in a long time, it Didn’t overheat. > In fact, the needle didn’t even get halfway up the gauge! > > I’m currently touching every piece of wood in the house, hoping that I > have now Finally fixed it........ > > Chris G > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6201 / Virus Database: 4568/12210 - Release Date: 05/11/16 > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As > Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. 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