Until the point when i.c. engines are banned in Amsterdam it seems possible that LPG might be the easiest solution to the problem faced by Hans. In considering electric propulsion has the possibility of using electric power to the rear wheels, with a range suited only to inner city use, been overlooked. With recharging from the mains at home and at the office/workshop and the use of drive systems already developed for motor scooters or motorbikes costs might be relatively low. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Darren Siepka <dar...@siepka.me.uk> To: quantumowners <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sat, 11 May 2019 10:11 Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Driving QSC for 25 years . . .
As nice as the electric power idea is the cost is to be honest prohibitive!I costed converting one of our 2+2 to use for the school run ( 4mile round trip twice a day!) And even that would have a long break even time! :-(As Derek says the time to get political may be coming! These politicians make these policies but just assume we all want to follow along and can afford to do so!!!!!Best regardsDarren On Sat, 11 May 2019, 09:54 Derek Clews, <derekcl...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Hans, That is terrible. Kit cars are enthusiast cars and the interest keeps engineering skills alive. I thought recycling cars and their parts was very green. There is more energy consumed in making than running a car. Is there no exemption you can apply for? If not maybe you need to get political and make one happen. There are classic car dealers and owners in holland (and Europe generally) so it may be time to get active withe the government. It has to be an issue with a lot of people if you cast the net wide enough. Otherwise you could get an out of town location for the cars and move them out. But I can see that may not be possible. Electric may be your best bet. Some in the QOC are trying electric conversions, so they are best placed to tell you about that. The usual 'tin box route' costs a fortune to own as you say. Are all the boats going electric as well? ATB Derek On 11 May 2019, at 00:12, Hans Defauwes <hansdefau...@hetnet.nl> wrote:. I enjoy & drive QSC ‘s for more than 25 years . . . I own a red Coupe (ex Eddy’s car) and a white LHD 2+2 (ex demonstrator) but for how long ??I have lots of spare/new service parts so I can service/fix them on the spot when needed. They never saw a garage form the inside. I build/service/maintain them myself incl. engine rebuilds. I have saved some money to spray and refurbish the coupe and get the 2+2 out of storage (recent engine rebuild) and fix the damaged sill/door this summer. But this plan goes down the drain Thanks to the Left “green” Amsterdam municipality I soon can’t drive to my workshop with my QSC’sThey ban any car/diesel less than Euro4 emissions beginning 2020, banning non electric commercial van’s & mopeds by 2025 and any combustion engine vehicle by 2030.Other cities want to follow this path to ban combustion vehicles. How to go to work and maintain the QSC’s – if I can’t drive to my workshop. 1 convert to Electric – very expensive & low range 2 Convert the QSC logbook to Euro6 with a 1.0 Ecoboost engineThe Dutch RDW = DVLA is very reluctant with information on how to change the logbook to Euro6.It seems I need to do an expensive individual emission and safety test by TNO (applied scientific research).Need a very recent low milage/new 1.0 Ecoboost donor car for the engine, gearbox, wire loom etc. modify driveshaft's, etc. etc. Probably need some re-engineering work. This costs much more than I saved so far 3 buy a tin car <wlEmoticon-sadsmile[1].png>I hate rust <wlEmoticon-auto[1].png> After 25+ years my QSC hobby ends unexpected and far to early. There is a very small kit car market in The Netherlands. So selling my QSC’s will be difficult. In the current state, both need body work, they will not be worth very much.The car dismantling company’s (scrap heap) don't want them due to the fiber body I can sell the spare parts to ford lovers – there are less than 80 registered fiesta MK2 XR2 left in The Netherlands . . . Hans ps who knows I might win the lottery -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. 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