I guess Virtual Patches seem more powerful on the face of it to software
engineers being more dynamic than Clips so they trumped Clips (didn't want to
create confusion b/w the two styles of home made patches?). Since I haven't got
into Virtual Patches yet I can say if I prefer them or not but it seems like a
no-brainer that similar to the addition of "Explode Macro…" QC should have a
"Convert Virtual Patch…" or "Embed Virtual Patch…" seeing as they have to be
embedded in the comp as a fall back anyhow.
If another version of QC ever comes out (be it 4.7 or 5.0), I vote for a
"Convert this Virtual Patch to Macro…" contextual menu item as a recognition of
the importance of ad-hoc changes on the fly to regularly used Library patches
made with QC itself.
Your plugin sounds interesting, George by all means mail me a sample to check
it out on a 'take it or leave it' basis.
The machine does not isolate man from the great problems of nature but plunges
him more deeply into them.
Antoine de Saint-Exupery
On 19/05/2012, at 1:15 AM, George Toledo wrote:
> You know, on a similar note, I wound up making a plugin not too long ago for
> the purpose of registering qtz files and plugins from an arbitrary location.
> It could pretty easily be edited to allow a user to load qtz's into the patch
> list from their own folder, separate from the Quartz Composer Patches stuff,
> which would be good for the sake of organization. If there's any interest in
> that, I'd consider cleaning that up and releasing as time allows.
>
> Doesn't help your desire to flatten per patch, but I'm reminded of the issues
> you were having on Migration, and having to sort Apple stuff from personal
> stuff. You could keep one folder in Documents or something, to load personal
> stuff from, for example.
>
> -gt
>
> On May 18, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Alastair Leith wrote:
>
>> Thanks George. I was hoping to convert on an individual-patch-basis when I
>> determine that I need to make a one-off change to a regularly used Virtual
>> Macro… Guess I have to choose Edit Patch… in Patch Library window's menu and
>> select-all, copy, paste, make macro, rewire noodles from old patch. Or use
>> flatten if that suits the situation.
>>
>> Strange the Release Notes reference to default behaviour ("By default,
>> macros added…") when there doesn't seem to be any other behaviour available.
>> Unless it's a nod to the fact that, as you indicated, Clips can be added to
>> Library. Although I haven't been able to confirm that one.
>>
>> I tried copying my Clips from OLD_HD/Library/Application
>> Support/Apple/Developer Tools/Quartz Composer/Clips to
>> Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/Apple/Developer Tools/Quartz
>> Composer/Clips (which already had 4 clips that must have been migrated from
>> somewhere the BCM2000 ones (Behringer) but none of these clips are appearing
>> in QC's Library after a reboot of QC… :-\
>>
>>
>> The machine does not isolate man from the great problems of nature but
>> plunges him more deeply into them.
>> Antoine de Saint-Exupery
>>
>> On 18/05/2012, at 11:14 PM, George Toledo wrote:
>>
>>> You flatten the composition.
>>>
>>> You should be able to choose "Option" while looking at the Save menu, and
>>> there should be an option to save a flattened version of the qtz file. That
>>> will make the previously "virtual patches" turn into regular, editable
>>> macros.
>>>
>>> Clips behavior is still active, just not present in the GUI. If you store
>>> your macros in the valid clip folder (can't remember where that is at the
>>> moment), QC will still load the macro into the Patch Library and let you
>>> use it like a clip.
>>>
>>> -gt
>>>
>>> On May 18, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Alastair Leith wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the release notes for QC 4.6:
>>>> A Virtual Macro is a reference to a composition that allows the
>>>> composition to be used in multiple places, requiring only changes to the
>>>> original composition when updates are needed. By default, macros added to
>>>> a composition from the Patch Library are added as Virtual Macros.
>>>>
>>>> I can't find anyway to get a 'non-default' behaviour from the Patch
>>>> Library does it exist?
>>>>
>>>> A way to add a Virtual Macro converted to a regular Macro (as clips were
>>>> in QC 3) would be nice. Even better the ability to embed a virtual macro
>>>> already used in the composition as a normal macro that can be opened and
>>>> edited would be great. There's a way to do this, right?
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