On 12/03/2016 03:54 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
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On 2016-12-01 15:43, Chris Laprise wrote:
On 12/01/2016 05:02 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
On 2016-12-01 11:41, Chris Laprise wrote:
I share Ivan's concern about asking for donations. The style should be more 
forward, with periodic donation drives (say 3X a year) that are prominently 
featured on the qubes-os.org front page (and a link from the github page, too). 
Many organizations also use email newsletters as a funding-drive tool, since it 
can contain requests for donations in the same vehicle that contains 
interesting information (not every Qubes user will want to keep monitoring the 
mailing lists).

These seem like reasonable ideas to me.

There should also be a stronger sense conveyed of the object of the 
donations--The Qubes Project as separate from ITL--so people don't think they 
are being asked to donate to a for-profit corp.

What about this part?

"ITL will not benefit from of any of the money donated through Open Collective. 
Instead, the funds will be paid directly to individual developers who have been hired to 
work on the open source edition of Qubes."

Is it possible to state that more clearly?
On the 'funding' page, the ITL section presents the relationship pretty well. 
But overall presentation could improve... For one, ITL's own branding is a bit 
weak and seems to appear only on that one page.
Hm, I'm not sure what you mean. ITL appearing only on that page of the Qubes 
website is entirely intentional. The idea is that ITL is only one among many 
sponsors of the Qubes project. (Even though, historically, ITL and the Qubes 
project have an extremely close relationship, we'd like the Qubes project to 
become more of an independent, self-sufficient entity in the future.)

My thrust is that people will feel more comfortable and eager with donating if Qubes Project exists as a very separate entity from its for-profit progenitor. With core ITL staff doing the major work it leaves the impression they are indistinct. Someone who is familiar with the relationship between Redhat and Fedora, or Canonical and Ubuntu, may not easily recognize a similar relationship with ITL and Qubes.

But this is by no means the biggest funding issue. Qubes will have to do solicitation via email, lists, twitter, etc. and should consider offering merchandise (decals, sweatshirts, etc) that Qubes users can flaunt while helping the project's finances. :)


Chris

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