On 20190114 at 22:28 -0600 Andrew David Wong wrote: We're getting to a point that is bringing up quite painful memories of decades past...
> In case anyone reading this is not aware, the documentation is a > community effort, and everyone is welcome to contribute. (That's how > things like this get updated!) So, if you'd like to get involved with > the project, this is a great way to do it. You can read more about > how > to submit documentation changes here: > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/doc-guidelines Second sentence of the second paragraph: "If you notice a problem with the documentation or some way it can be improved, please report it!" And to quote the "How to Contribute" below: "If you’re already familiar with GitHub or wish to work from the command line, you can skip the rest of this section. All you need to do to contribute is to fork and clone the qubes-doc repo, make your changes, then submit a pull request.)" 1) Not doing anything that needs git I'm staying with CVS since 1995 for my own projects and do not want to deal with git. 2) git (or any other descendant of CVS) is hardly the right tool to do documentation in a community setting just like a hammer is the adequate tool for everything. The effect can be easily seen here: Important information is not updated (a lot of the pages are still referring to 3.2 only; just remember my last remark about bind-dirs in the 4.0 fedora-templates) and a lot of knowledge that would be easy to collect in a MediaWiki with its low hurdles regarding access to editing tools is just getting lost (see the messages about getting NICs in Lenovo P-series to work (or installing Qubes there); several people solved the problem and nobody documented it -- I certainly won't if it means wrangling with a versioning system and vi instead of adequate tools). Reading qubes- users and the Reddit discussions contain a lot beginner-level stuff that should be recorded somewhere but if that means using git I would assume 99.9% of those who could do it just giving up. I remember similar discussions in the FreeBSD and NetBSD projects a few decades ago. Their hard stance on availability and participation in documentation projects ("use our tools or die" instead of "let's see if we find something that works for all") was (besides the UCB vs AT&T copyright disputes that halted development for more than a year) one of the things that made lots of people move to Linux. Achim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-devel@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/dd3eb134d958c72f4973e34520e952b52ed46a15.camel%40noses.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.