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On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 05:05:01PM +0000, Zrubi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just upgraded to 4.1 which is went fine using the backup and restore
> procedure.
> 
> I have found out that the 'sys-net' as a default netvm is hardcoded in some
> places.
> 
> Why it is an issue?
> becuse I using another netvm (separate WiFi, and Ethernet VMs) by default.
> 
> 
> I have already changed the default netvm, not any single VM are using the
> 'factory defaulf' sys-net any more, but still the template upgrade process
> pull this in somehow...
> Ending up without net access because of this.
> 
> I have found two reference so far:
> 
> user@dom0 ~]$ sudo grep sys-net /etc/libvirt/libxl/sys-firewall.xml
>       <backenddomain name='sys-net'/>
> 
> This seems like a hidden property, as not show on the GUI, but not even
> using qvm-prefs.

It is in qvm-prefs very explicitly: a netvm property of sys-firewall.

> user@dom0 ~]$ grep sys-net /etc/qubes/policy.d/90-default.policy
> # Default rule for all TemplateVMs - direct the connection to sys-net
> qubes.UpdatesProxy      *   @type:TemplateVM        @default    allow
> target=sys-net
> 
> ^^ Maybe this is triggering it?

This is what templates will use to download updates from, see 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/how-to-install-software/#updates-proxy
So, yes, if you want to use something else, you do need to change it
(but I recommend creating a new file with lower number and putting your
rule there - it will take precedence over later rules).

- -- 
Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
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