OK, now, I had real problems trying to switch to debian8.

I shut down sys-net and sys-firewall

Switched them both over to debian8

First thing, it said "Internet disconnected" in network manager, and simply 
wouldn't show any WiFi networks at all.

Second thing, it wouldn't even open the terminal for "sys-net".

So, this really did not work for me.

Chris Laprise, what did you do, other than shutting down VMs and changing to 
debian..?

Did you have to shut down sys-usb as well..? 

Or do I have to do a bunch of other VMs or other stuff..?

This certainly didn't work smoothly for me at all. I've switched back over to 
Fedora just to type this.

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