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On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 07:57:35AM -0700, neilhard...@gmail.com wrote:
> Presumably through the CPU.
> 
> We know this option exists for hard drives for a facts.
> 
> So I see no reason you couldn't get Ethernet + WiFi chips without DMA.
> 
> Not all devices support switching off DMA, so I can see why Qubes decided to 
> use VT-D + Xen instead.
> 
> But certainly, I think there are devices out there without DMA. I think you 
> just need to search the market for a Ethernet/WiFi that supports non-DMA.

I don't think any modern network adapter support non-DMA mode, with
decent performance (if at all). Using CPU for just transferring the data
is horrible waste of resources (few hundreds of instructions for 1KB).

Regarding Xen and VT-d - Xen responsibility is only to setup allowed
memory areas for given device. Actual enforcement is done by the
hardware.

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Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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