(will post a copy of this on the xen users forum as well as here on the qubes 
users forum.)

On Monday, 21 November 2016 13:40:02 UTC+11, Jean-Philippe Ouellet  wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Drew White <[email protected]> wrote:
> > How do I reproduce the issue on upstream XEN when I run Qubes and keep 
> > working and doing my stuff without wasting several weeks on testing it on 
> > upstream XEN?
> 
> I don't know, but seeing as you're the only person who reports
> experiencing this issue, nobody else can test things to try to narrow
> it down for you.
> 
> > Qubes is downstream XEN I assume from what you are saying, which means that 
> > the version of XEN that Qubes uses is modified in some ways?
> > Which means that it's a different version of XEN altogether?
> 
> Well, Qubes uses a slightly patched Xen -- the applied patches can be
> found here: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-vmm-xen
 
I'll have to take a look at that again, I have the code here.



> My suggestions for you at this point:
> 
> 1) Post your output of:
>     $ cat /etc/qubes-release
>     $ xl dmesg | head -1
> to this list

[{user}@dom0 {folder}]$ cat /etc/qubes-release 
Qubes release 3.2 (R3.2)
[{user}@dom0 {folder}]$ xl dmesg | head -1
 Xen 4.6.1-20.fc23
[{user}@dom0 {folder}]$



> 2) See if there's any way you can get a serial console on your
> machine. Either via Intel AMT (definitely easiest if supported) or
> perhaps via an internal serial header someplace (if you have the
> necessary hardware and technical inclination) to see if xen produces
> any useful log output while it is actually hanging. Make sure your xen
> loglvl=all while doing so (which should be already set by the qubes
> installer).

Nope, no possibility. 
When the PC freezes completely EVERYTHING stops, the whole thing is no longer 
responding and no processes function.
When the system background logging continues (crond) which I set up to log 
things every 5 minutes on every virtual as well as dom0.


> 3) Provide a full detailed description of the behavior you exhibit to
> the xen-users list. (And the first thing they will probably ask is if
> you can still reproduce the issue with the latest upstream un-patched
> Xen...)

I leave system on for a couple of days, sometimes even a day, or over night, or 
sometimes even while I'm using it...

It locks up.

Sometimes logging continues, sometimes it doesn't. (my crond logging script)

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I only have 50 guests.
I only have maybe 10-15 running at any one time.

Normally they use 2048 GB RAM each, not balanced.
Some I have set to 1024 GB RAM, such as NetVM or ProxyVM or other Guests that 
do not do much other than file sharing, or inter-vm operations or just a 
firewall. (or dos / my own / others)

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