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On 2016-12-23 02:49, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 11:56:13PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>> On 2016-12-22 07:33, J. Eppler wrote:
>>>
>>>>> 1. How can I search for qubes-templates in dom0 rpm repository? The 
>>>>> qubes-dom0-update tool excludes all templates from a search.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=search qubes-template
>>>>
>>>> This will pass through the terminal output from the UpdateVM, so even
>>>> though templates are excluded in the dom0 dnf command, you'll still get
>>>> the search results (in red text by default).
>>>>
>>>> Remember that you won't see community templates unless you enable their 
>>>> repo:
>>>>
>>>> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community 
>>>> --action=search qubes-template
>>>
>>> Reading red text is not a really good solution from an usability 
>>> perspective. What are the reasons to exclude templates from a search in the 
>>> first place?
>>>
> 
>> Actually, after further testing, I've found that this doesn't work. Even 
>> with `--enablerepo=qubes-templates-community`, I'm only getting the Fedora 
>> and Arch templates in search results (not Whonix or Debian). Without 
>> `--enablerepo=qubes-templates-community`, I only get the Fedora templates in 
>> the search results. So, this method doesn't work. Moreover, the results are 
>> inconsistent, since Debian is in the official templates-itl repo, whereas 
>> Arch is in the templates-community repo.
> 
>> Marek, any idea what's going on here?
> 
> Already installed templates are excluded from every qubes-dom0-update
> operation. Mostly to not accidentally upgrade such package - which would
> override all the changes made inside (including installed packages,
> applied updates etc). Currently the only exception is "reinstall"
> action, with one specific template given as an argument. There is a plan
> to extend this to some other actions:
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2527
> 
> But in general, we need some better mechanism to distribute templates,
> this is one of the reasons...
> 

Oh, I see. Tracking:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2534

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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