> I'm a strong advocate of using minimal (or smaller) templates, customised for > specific use cases. Some people HATE this approach. > > unman
Really? Coming from the sort of people with the patience for an OS like Qubes? I'd think anyone who's involved enough to have an opinion would be in favor of that -- that's kind of the idea here, isn't it? One thing I wish I could change would be the visual clutter it produces; anybody know of a means to flag these VMs as internal so I can hide the ones I'm not interested in seeing regularly? That being said, I'm definitely in agreement with you, unman. Would you recommend any particular setup for a more granular approach? My current arrangement of VMs [work in progress; suggestions welcome!] is structured like this as of now: - dom0 - fedora-24 - dispVM(s) - fedora-24-minimal ( ... > derivative templates > appVM > packages*) - fedora-24-min-net - sys-net** - General-purpose: gnome-keyring, less, man, pciutils, psmisc, sudo, vim-minimal, xterm - Template-specific: dbus-x11, dejavu-sans-fonts, NetworkManager, NetworkManager-wifi, network-manager-applet, notification-daemon, tinyproxy - fedora-24-min-frwll - sys-firewall - No additional packages; effectively a clone of the Fedora-24-minimal template. - fedora-24-min-vpn - sys-vpn - G.P.: sudo, xterm - T.S.: [TBD; trying out some different VPNs atm] - fedora-24-min-usb - sys-usb - G.P.: sudo, xterm - T.S.: qubes-input-proxy-sender - fedora-24-min-pen - pentest - G.P.: sudo, xterm - T.S.: aircrack-ng, ettercap, kismet, nmap, nmap-telcat, tcpdump, wireshark***, [remaining packages TBD] * The concomitant dependencies aren't included in these lists (n.b. packages are installed in the respective templateVM) ** Can't quite get this one to run properly yet; I presume I need to install a proprietary driver in the template to make this work for my machine(?) *** Very interested in trying out v6ak's split-wireshark" idea but haven't found the time yet. Thanks for sharing that idea, v6ak! - TN Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/QOUCXs5Owf4_vFzLV8tj0-YlBHu981vPYZYllxyjhEEUARUYol1xXRAHwNTExkDU0O9iMVo0_fWuy4AlV4-AlAT_GSEpbXPcDbfw6jw_GYw%3D%40protonmail.ch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.