On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 11:43:34 PM UTC-4, Francesco wrote: > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Eva Star <eva...@openmailbox.org> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > On 08/02/2017 03:04 AM, cooloutac wrote: > > > > > oh ok I see, so a taskbar widget or something to replace the > > > manager. I thought they lost their minds for a second. My > > > immediate thought was what about attaching drives, and seeing if > > > updates available? Joanna addressed all my concerns but I'm gonna > > > have to wait and see what happens with this. Hopefully it doesn't > > > turn out to be more confusing then the manager. > > > > It is a miscalculation. How about the words "we must make Qubes user > > friendly for all users non IT advanced" and release Qubes without > > manager? :( > > > > Maybe, widgets is not a good idea, but Qubes Manager is one of the > > important part that make Qubes useful to manage all vms with mouse. > > Some UX to old one QM + start menu links to right mouse action and it > > will be amazing. > > > > > > Well, I never use the start menu on the left lower side of the screen because > it is too complicated, too many items and needs customization that I am too > lazy to do or have better things to do. I do everything with the Qubes > Manager that is so well organized and compact. I am afraid that the new > arrangement may make things more difficult to find for a new user since items > are spread over different buttons/places. > > > I would suggest to mitigate this risk putting links to the other places on > the widget/window that opens when you click on one of them. You can separate > things, but better put links to find them again. > > > Also I imagine that somewhere I'll find the list of VMs. There please > 1. keep the "run command in VM" choice and > 2. add something new: the chance to show only preferred VM > > > The first is very important to avoid using the start button. > > The second is important to simplify the view and speed up the most common > routines > > > > Cooloutac made me smile telling of his mother and family using Qubes. I had > my wife using Qubes for some years, but recently she rised up against Qubes > telling that it is too complicated for her to be able to master it without > help. She wanted a Mac. Really it is impossible to maintain Qubes without > the CLI and this makes it beyond limits for most people. But perhaps if we > are able to find a stable architecture and then Qubes matures enough, this > may change. But we are not there yet. > > Best > > Fran > > > > > > - -- > > Regards > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v2 > > > > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJZgnLPAAoJEGSin3PC/C0AyIUP/AuxhZfxWdFGYzLzUQX2fzn/ > > 5ajxXWVNtTXWgpmUqzu1Ov/HMp9W7hFerw4GXwMotXDDXrIbf+8WEayS+q+SdXBn > > qanSZ0EmBkwoFVptP+1TNQqQIcRLEF3gN3o3vq8tGaq2dUZ4HW9hSXBUZ71WcjXR > > g95QUBBpl05/l//Vozu0GEUxpLBrzAhji95awd39vn/2BRKr6q4pGlNsi6BdqgCJ > > WzmeaSTrYjNkBHypYjgpCXT6MQLRXEmlqX8OVxI5jopP7tYNZh5+bKp+1/U9vccJ > > q4ddOTDlaCwY5bmQgWl05MNI4+OWr8xBlrfVCMmfxVO5dOBvoCjCrMTEySh3sPL7 > > gGMcT1349yiIllPPP0vhdm+0d0n0hWLR160WExQoF+oUgCbXFnf5sBT1bjWxXBOl > > EEwg6IMElKgjI0jG0izCX7M3rn5m1H95KOGR2nn+IyJIzgJwk4+4YTWgFFfnwQyX > > k9EcN8vffpokLz9I3u2qZSdDDYz71KVRAHMxL3h2WxEro7RVRtOcbpXO3ctcsdV0 > > QZfEwW2SAeZz798InY/Qb+7NmtpSsZUl3rCYUY7i5mubkGgnbtklCSUEzxZZ+4hx > > SD6nV8tTjrNMxSNEytvIYd6wJZYrHkvA7Kf7KtNtxa7+mMr89LzL5qLHk/W15R14 > > iXk4BnVvkdfLntZ+Pa84 > > =ILr0 > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "qubes-users" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to qubes-users...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to qubes...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7a4c1304-cbcb-e447-97dc-9db848eae1fd%40openmailbox.org. > > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
I'm being honest man. The only time we ever have to use the cli, is if we forget to restart the sys-usb and shut it down by accident. She has the command written on the wall to alt-f2, xterm, qvm-start sys-usb. Only command we ever use on occasion, and thats only cause we using mouse proxy in the sys-usb. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/0dfced76-d3b6-4d77-b86f-7a3d6bb640f5%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
