On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 9:27:35 AM UTC-4, cooloutac wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 10:46:04 AM UTC-4, James Miller wrote:
> > For those that run Qubes on an off the shelf computer, did you go through 
> > any special steps to insure the hardware was clean after you purchased, but 
> > before you installed qubes?  I'm about to buy new hardware for my 
> > installation and I'm thinking of all the places in the purchase chain where 
> > a laptop could be compromised. Does anyone have advise on how to not become 
> > the one in a million person to get a laptop with compromised hardware?  For 
> > example: 
> >     Do I need to replace any parts just in case? 
> >     Do I need to buy in person or directly from the manufacturer on line?
> 
> I would literally get it off the shelf somewhere.  Examine the box to make 
> sure its not used before buying.  Thats what I do.
> 
> I hate buying stuff from Amazon or Newegg,  cause half the time its used, 
> opened in shipment.   UPS is very corrupt.  Some of them are also crazy and 
> play soccer with your packages.
> 
> One way to determine if its fresha and clean when buying some parts,  is they 
> come with stickers.  Gpu,  CPU, MObo,  and memory sticks always come with 
> manufacturers stickers to put on the case.   IF the sticker is not in there,  
> its used.
> 
> For example I just ordered some more g.skill ram,   The original ram I bought 
> from microcenter had the sticker.   The same exact ram I got from newegg,  
> didn't.  Now I don't think ram has firmware to be comrpromised?   who knows.  
> also its a liftime warranty so I wasn't too upset.  But these are things to 
> look for.

Every single manufacturer I've ever bought puts a sticker in the box.  So if 
you buy something and didn't get one.  Its used period, no matter what you are 
telling yourself.

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