On 01/23/18 18:55, Nuno Branco wrote:
Basically, if I backup my current 3.2 VMs am I going to be able to
restore them on 4.0 ? Not clear on what the implications are of the HVM
vs PVVM change on 4.0 are for backups / restores.

I replaced my 3.2 setup with 4.0rc3 a few days ago and I'm quite happy with it; there were a few hiccups though so if I were you I'd test first on a separate HD or be ready to install 3.2 back. The HVM vs PVVM change was transparent although some of the things listed below might be a result of the change.

- I had an issue when restoring dom0's home [1] ; the solution was to recover the files manually from the backup. You may want to have a separate dom0 backup - I'm not sure how easy it is to perform the backup recovery with multiple VMs in a backup "bundle".

- I couldn't launch apps from the menu for a restored fedora VM that was standalone in 3.2. qvm-start'ing apps from dom0 worked though. I tried to update the qubes-* rpms in that VM to 4.0 (hacking qubes' yum repo to 4.0) but it ended up in a total mess, I eventually restored it again from 3.2 and will debug that later.

- Windows VM (win7) works - sort of: I can launch the windows template and it works fine, but the "standalone based on template" VMs restored from 3.2 won't start. I didn't have the time to debug that yet as those are non critical.

- 4.0rc3's fedora VMs are based on fedora 25 so you'll have to download the newer fedora-26 template rpm and update your VM configurations. You may wait for 4.0rc4 which I understand should be released soon - it should include fedora 26 by default

- if for some reason you often have to look at all your VMs' cpu usage at once, I haven't seen a way to do it yet. Qubes-manager is missing from 4.0rc3 but should be back (in a new form) in 4.0rc4, I don't know if they'll restore the cpu usage feature though. There was also a hint that this could be shown from the new applet menu [2] but like with everything above debugging time is scarce and I have yet to see if the applet's menu visible info is user configurable.


Everything else in my workflow works as before - sys-usb, sys-net with PCI devices, ...
I haven't tested "native" backup+restore on 4.0 yet though.

Hope this helps.

Ivan

[1] https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3467
[2] https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2132

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