On 03/14/2018 08:47 PM, Drew White wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 March 2018 23:28:58 UTC+11, Chris Laprise  wrote:
On 03/13/2018 09:53 PM, Drew White wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:25:12 UTC+11, Chris Laprise  wrote:
On 03/13/2018 08:20 PM, Drew White wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 March 2018 11:06:22 UTC+11, Chris Laprise  wrote:
The current VPN doc is here:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/vpn/
Thanks for the reply Chris, but that is not what I was looking for as I was wanting to use pptp VPN connections (and similar), not a Qubes VPN.

I think you mean "not an OpenVPN..."?

I am guessing so, yes, thanks for clarifying.

FWIW, the resources at those links are meant to be adaptable for
non-OpenVPN setups, and they don't impose any particular type of routing
(other than forbidding access that most call 'leaks'). As for accessing
the LAN directly through a VPN VM, there are simple ways to make an
exception for it.
That's what I don't get. All I want to do is have the VPN connect, nothing else. So that my AppVM can talk through it to the external.

OK, this sounds like you want to connect to a remote LAN.

I thought that is what VPNs  are for?

They can be. Some configs are for remote LANs, others for connecting to Internet.


Well that is their primary intention, to connect from where you are to a remote 
network.
I should have clarified that in the first place due to many people these days 
connecting to remote networks as a 255.255.255.255 and only doing it to connect 
out to the internet for privacy and security.

I shall endeavor to mention that in the future if it ever arises again.



I also want to have one where everything that is going to happen on the remote 
network is pushed through the VPN, and everything else remains using the local 
connection.

So there are 2 ways I'm looking at having it work.

But at first, I just want a standard PPTP connection.

There are plenty of guides out there. But when searching for examples
keep in mind that a Qubes proxyVM behaves much like a router (not a PC
endpoint) so that may be the best type of guide to use.

Exactly, and as a router it should connect a VPN.
I used to have it able to do it. So that's why I don't understand why it isn't 
working. Since I had it able to do it once before, ages ago, and nothing has 
changed since then, and now it isn't working. So it's odd. Thus I figured maybe 
something has changed.

I want to say "Not much has changed in R3.2 networking", but the Linux
distros in the templates have changed somewhat over the years. In any
case, you'll need to review your configuration and maybe post setup
steps to get specific troubleshooting advice.

I'm still using F23 for it. Perhaps there is something else inside the Qubes 
Networking that has an issue with it after updating for security.

I'll have to just go through settings and try and try and try. Just go from one 
settings to another and trying to connect after altering each setting.

I suggest moving your settings to F26 (i.e. change the template of your VM).



What else, other than NetworkManager can be used?

F26 has pptp-setup package. It lets you use shell commands:
http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/

Of course, Qubes proxyVMs have Network Manager disabled by default.

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