On 04/27/18 08:20, higginsonjim2-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote:
On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:46:08 PM UTC+1, 
higgin...-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote:
Have used Qubes3 for a couple of years and now acquired a new PC where I've 
done a complete fresh install of QUBES 4.

(Copied all my data off old system - ready for adding to new system when all 
set up)

Base system seems fine - standard VM's etc - but everything by default based on 
Fedora - albeit Debian and Fedora templates offered by default.

Fedora template has lots of assorted software - that I could use to add to 
various Vm's as required - a standard new VM using Fedora template offers 
FILES, TERMINAL, FIREFOX and QUBES SETTINGS - basically core features to get me 
started.

WHEN I LOOK AT THE DEBIAN-9 template - there is no software at all.

ALSO the DEBIAN-9 template and any VM that I generate using it, only offers  
QUBE-SETTINGS - i.e. no TERMINAL, BROWSER or FILEs.


CAN ANYONE advise on what I should do next - assume if I get access to 
terminal, I can install all software I want - but assumed there would be a 
standard stock of software/base features available in the Debian-9 template.

(Am sure this was the case with QUBES3)

Grateful for advice - my preference is to use Debian (as per last 2 years 
within QUBES and many years before that using DEBIAN distro) rather than Fedora.

See awokd comments.
Problem is that I have nothing in APPLICATIONS.

Have tried Removing DEB9 template, installing DEB8 template and then following 
the Upgrade 8 to 9 route.
This initially seems to solve problem. Load of APPLICATIONS appear - and by going into repos 
folder- could change "jessie" to "stretch". Then update/upgrade.
Still can't use the APPLICATIONS in DEB 9.

I'll try it again with fresh install - in case I did something wrong.
Another option - might simply copy the DEB9 "template" from previous computer and install 
that - but wanted to avoid that - just naturally want to have "clean" install on QUBES 4 
on new computer.

Any other suggestions welcome - have others found DEBIAN-9 template OK on clean 
install?.



I believe I saw this also,  but don't recall if I fixed it or what
dom0$ qvm-appmenus --sync debian-9  or so

btw, which file managers are recommended ? Nautilus or Nemo , I believe I installed both, but what I see available is just called "files" ; IIRC in debian-8 it was actually called Nautilus or , sorry if this is a debian question

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