On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 2:52:06 AM UTC+2, reby wrote:
 
> IIRC sys-net sometimes can be stubborn if one is not patient enough so 
> use qvm-kill if in a hurry ..... personally I don't see a downside of it 
> autostarting, though I guess one might have reasons to not want that, 
> any way

My sys-net starts when I log in to Qubes (not during boot as it would if it was 
configured to start on boot). It also starts immediately after being shut down. 
Same is for sys-firewall.
Maybe I wouldn't even have noticed that, because normally I want it to always 
be on, but I currently have a particular reason I would like to shut it down 
and can't. :)


# qvm-prefs sys-net
autostart             -  False
backup_timestamp      -  1543343438
debug                 D  False
default_dispvm        D  fedora28dvm
default_user          D  user
gateway               D  10.137.0.5
gateway6              D  
include_in_backups    D  True
installed_by_rpm      D  False
ip                    D  10.137.0.5
ip6                   D  
kernel                D  4.14.74-1
kernelopts            D  nopat iommu=soft swiotlb=8192
klass                 D  AppVM
label                 -  red
mac                   D  00:...
maxmem                D  4000
memory                -  400
name                  -  sys-net
netvm                 -  None
provides_network      -  True
qid                   -  5
qrexec_timeout        D  60
start_time            D  1544692438.38
stubdom_mem           U
stubdom_xid           D  -1
template              -  fedora-28
template_for_dispvms  D  False
updateable            D  False
uuid                  -  db...
vcpus                 D  2
virt_mode             -  pv
visible_gateway       D  
visible_gateway6      D  
visible_ip            D  10.137.0.5
visible_ip6           D  
visible_netmask       D  
xid                   D  1

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