On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 11:06:25PM +0000, mossy wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I was looking to see if I could update an offline standalone VM, by
> appending a line to `etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdatesProxy` and I now
> have some questions.
> 
> First, I noticed the lines:
> 
> ~~~
> # Default rule for all TemplateVMs - direct the connection to sys-net
> $type:TemplateVM $default allow,target=sys-net
> ~~~
> 
> Q1) Is this correct?  Shouldn't updates be directed to sys-firewall
> instead of sys-net?  Are all of our templates exposed to (untrusted)
> sys-net?
> 
> Hopefully I am wrong about this, but either way I'd appreciate if
> someone could explain...
> 
> Q2) If I want to update an offline standalone VM called `OfflineSA`,
> what would be the proper syntax in
> `etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdatesProxy`?  I have tried each of the
> following without success:
> 
> OfflineSA $default allow,target=sys-net
> OfflineSA $default allow,target=sys-firewall
> OfflineSA allow,target=sys-net
> OfflineSA allow,target=sys-firewall
> $type:StandaloneVM $default allow,target=sys-net
> $type:StandaloneVM $default allow,target=sys-firewall
> 
> Q3) do I need to restart my whole qubes system for any new
> `etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdatesProxy` rules to come into effect?
> 
> Q4) can update proxies perhaps only be set via some $tag or $type?
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> -m0ssy

Q1. Yes, the default is to use sys-net. You can change this if you wish.
(I do)
The update proxy has always been set to sys-net by default.
The proxy used to filter traffic, but no longer does so. Again, I change
this behaviour.

Q2.  OfflineSA $default allow,target=sys-net
should work: the syntax is right. (You do have proxy configured in
OfflineSA?)

Q3. No - changes in those rules come in to play straight away.

Q4. No, they can be set on an individual basis.

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