On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 12:00:53 AM UTC-5, 22...@tutamail.com wrote:
> Mus be the Australian government and the five eyes! 
> 
> I tried it on a clone and it update no issues...tried it on my main templates 
> as-is/no change to http(fromhttps) and they happened to work fine.
> 
> Next time I will consider the option of waiting...
> 
> Xaver&awoked...you rock! Thx...

Yes you are targeted way more with MITM attacks when updating with tor I've 
learned.  You really have to pay attention to any notifications before hitting 
Yes.  Such as invalid signature, etc...  But even the best of us can hit y by 
accident.  

Sometimes when I have issues updating.  I will update from qubes-manager,  or I 
will update manually from console,  which sometimes will give different 
results.  For examplesometimes will notice a notification on one but not the 
other.

I think this is the biggest way to attack qubes users.  Through updates. Its 
what Spengler threatened Joanna with.    Especially dom0 updates you need to be 
extra careful.  Most of us have hardware thats already screwed, imo.

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