Ryan Tate wrote on 4/1/19 7:54 PM:


On Apr 1, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Ryan Tate <ryant...@ryantate.com> wrote:

Now I see there is a folder in my dom0 home dir called 
‘home-restore-2019-04-01-etcetc’.

But what do I do with this? I just have to manually figure out what files are 
important? :-\

I just sort of methodically copied over anything that seemed important and 
rebooted which seems to get me most of the way there.

I would like to say, I really think the wrong decision was made here:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2271
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1106

The rationale for not actually restoring dom0 when dom0 is requested to be 
restored seems to be:
1.User may be restoring to a different machine from the original, which could 
obviate e.g. monitor settings. User can’t simply avoid restoring dom0 in this 
situation "because it contains some files and scripts that I need” (quote from 
issue 2271).
OR
2. user may only restore some VMs and then the dom0 restore will create false 
menus (issue 1106)

I would argue, if you ask to restore dom0, then dom0 should be restored (truly, 
not by copying over a directory, which is not a “restore”). Any glitches due 
to, for example, restoring dom0 to a different machine, are the responsibility 
of the user. User may also need to handle restoring dom0 with only partial vm 
restore, for example by purging appmenus (although ideally the restore process 
or architecture of Qubes would make partial restores happen more smoothly).

If the wish is not “restore” but rather to copy some files — “some files and 
scripts that I need” — then it is up to the user to transfer these files by the 
usual mechanism.

IMO Qubes has allowed the definition of “restore” to become a bit corrupted. To 
restore is not just to copy a directory and let the user fend for themselves. 
When I “restore”, the original state should largely come back. e.g. app menus 
in vms, xfce panel particulars, desktop particulars, etc. If I want something 
different, for example only to copy some settings over, it should be up to me 
as a user to make that happen. If the restore is imperfect, that is OK — it 
would be better to have an imperfect restore (with, for example, some phantom 
menus) than to have no restore at all, from the standpoint of user 
expectations, judging purely from myself.

These seem like reasonable points though for visibility & tracking, it might be better to paste them directly into one of those issues.


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