pixel fairy:
> Just from what you say here, qubes does provide a significant advantage in 
> the pw setup with keepassx running in its own appvm. 

I think there might be some confusion here. Whonix was designed from the
the ground up to be run inside virtual machines. You can run Whonix in
VirtualBox, KVM *and* Qubes Os. You can run a passwork manager in a
Whonix VM in Qube Os.

other than that, it
> depends on how hard your adversaries are trying. another advantage of qubes 
> is ease of disposable vms. with whonix youd have to make a template whonix 
> workstation for the same effect, but thats a one time step that you'll 
> probably do anyway.

Since Whonix can be run in Qubes OS you can also create Whonix
DisposableVMs the same a with Fedora and Debian.

> 
> qubes uses xen, which has a smaller attack surface and much better track 
> record for vm escape vulns. 

And Whonix can also be run in Qubes. I don't think the two can
reasonably be compared. Without Virtual machines (Whonix, Debian, Fedora
etc.) running in Qubes, the OS (Qubes) would be non-usable.

To start learning about Qubes and Whonix, this would be a good start.

https://www.qubes-os.org/intro/
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Main_Page
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Comparison_with_Others
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/About
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Comparison_of_different_Whonix_variants
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Features

>if you cant use that, make sure you keep up to 
> date on virtualbox. if you dont like virtualbox, you might be able to 
> import whonix to libvirt / kvm. 
> https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/importing-vms-kvm-virt-v2v 

KVM should be prefered over VirtualBox.

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/KVM#Why_Use_KVM_Over_VirtualBox.3F

> you will be fingerprinted as a whonix, and possibly virtualbox / kvm user. 
> 

Whonix protects against fingerprinting. But this is not a really a
comparision that can be made with Qubes.

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Protocol-Leak-Protection_and_Fingerprinting-Protection

> On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 9:17:48 AM UTC-7, O K wrote:
>>
>> Ok but for my purpose of being online and wanting my traffic and hardware 
>> info isolated (and that's all I'm worried about - mainly anything that can 
>> identify me personally), in your opinion do you think Qubes will provide me 
>> with significant advantages for my particular needs vs. Whonix?  Thanks.

Run Whonix *in* Qubes OS. Thats your best bet for sure.

Regards

0brand

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