On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 3:14:03 PM UTC-5, brend...@gmail.com wrote:

> 1. Qubes has pcie hotplug disabled in the dom0 kernel, which TB uses for 
> PCIe-based thunderbolt devices. This is disabled for security reasons.
> 2. The TB alternate mode that supports USBs might not instantiate the PCIe 
> USB controller it connects through *until a USB device is connected to that 
> port*.
> 3. Therefore...depending on BIOS support...you *might* be able to have a 
> USB device seen by qubes if the USB device is plugged in at power-on. Even 
> if that works, it might be on a USB PCIe controller that is not already 
> attached to your sys-usb (if you have one).
> 4. If it does work, you might want to create a sys-usb-c which you run 
> only after connecting a device to the port at boot time, and assign the 
> (usually hidden) PCIe USB controller that that VM only.
>
>
>
Thanks for the reply! I took a break in the middle of typing my own reply, 
for a meeting, so your message came in as I was completing it.

All of your points seem to line up with what I discovered poking around. 
Yes, I can get usb-c seen if device connected at power on.

Thanks for the idea of an secondary sys-usb for usb-c! I had not considered 
that. If I discover I really need something Usb-c, which seems likely in 
time, I will probably do that. For now it's really just my new yubikey, 
which I am going to give to someone else and replace with a USB-A/NFC.

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