On Sunday, 12 July 2020 07:40:58 UTC+8, Robert Spigler wrote:
>
> I have a debian-10-dvm and a whonix-ws-15-dvm.  I also had a 
> fedora-30-dvm, but when upgrading to fedora-32, I followed "Creating a New 
> DisposableVM Template" here: (
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/disposablevm-customization/), so no longer 
> have the fedora-30-dvm. Instead, I have a custom-disposablevm-template 
> based on fedora-32. I would prefer to rename this to 
> fedora-32-dvm-template, but renaming fails with 'Failed to clone appmenus'.
>
> My main question/problem is that unlike the debian-10-dvm and 
> whonix-ws-15-dvm, opening an application in fedora-32-dvm-template does not 
> open a disposableVM (disp####), instead it opens 
> 'custom-disposablevm-template'.  IIUC, that is because I am supposed to 
> create fedora-32-dvm from the dvm-template.  But I cannot figure out how to 
> do that.  It is set as the default disposableVM template, so opening files 
> through the GUI in a disposableVM will open them in a disposableVM based on 
> fedora-32, but I would still like to be able to open an application through 
> the GUI/start menu in a fedora-32-dvm.
>
> What I am also having trouble understanding is what dvm-template is the 
> debian-10-dvm and whonix-ws-15-dvm based on? I know Qubes4.0 introduced 
> multiple DVMTemplates, but I don't see any other DVMTemplates listed under 
> the start menu.  In Qubes Manager, debian-10-dvm and whonix-ws-15-dvm are 
> marked as being their own DVMTemplates? But also DVM's themselves?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Robert
>

I read about this particular bug in whonix DVM that's possibly relevant: 

>Use caution when spawning a DispVM for the first time when it is based on 
a freshly created DVM Template. This Qubes bug 
<https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3574> [archive] 
<https://web.archive.org/web/https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3574>
 can 
lead to the DVM Template starting instead of the DispVM. [29] 
<https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/DisposableVM#cite_note-29> [30] 
<https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/DisposableVM#cite_note-30> There could 
be serious consequences if an application like Tor Browser was started in a 
DVM Template and used extensively for web browsing. Compromise of the DVM 
Template would mean all DispVMs spawned from it would be similarly 
compromised; see Running Tor Browser in Qubes TemplateVM 
<https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Tor_Browser/Advanced_Users#Running_Tor_Browser_in_Qubes_TemplateVM>
.

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/DisposableVM

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